Various problems - driver related?
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Hi
Please help.
I'm having all kind of weird problems with sketchup pro 6 (demo version).
Besides having strange graphic anomalies, I can't edit, push / pull, draw, pick surfaces, etc.. in perspective mode, but if I change to parallel projection view, everythings OK. My graphics card is an ATI 9600 xt 256 mg and I already tried diferent catalyst drivers, from 8.3 onward, and the problem remains. I even unchecked fast feedback from preferences, disabled mipmapping, catalyst A.I., anti-aliasing, but the problem remains. The only thing that aparentely resolves it, is if I uncheck hardware acceleration in sketchup preferences, but that way is unbearble slow to work with, and the stranger thing is that, as I said, with "everything on", the problems only occur in perspective mode.
Help
Guru
PS A colleague of mine also has the same graphics card, but working with old drivers, and no problem there.
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Well it certainly sounds like a graphics card problem.
You could try to locate the driver version your friend is using, or try out the Omega drivers for ATI.
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Back when I was using SU6Pro on my old machine with an ATi 9800 Pro 128MB I used the Omega Drivers and it worked great. Try them, have a look at the optimisation guide for the BIOS as well.
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Thanks for all your help
I tried an older catalyst model (8.1) but still no go.
I also tried the latest omega drivers, based in the catalyst driver 7.12, but after installment, I couldn't launch Ati control panel (click it but doesn't start!), only Ati tray tools work, and inside sketchup, the option hardware acceleration was grayed out, wich, I assume, means sketchup didn't recognize hardware acceleration capabilities with that driver.
perhaps it means the installation was corrupted.
Has this ever happened to anyone, the Ati control panel, I mean..
Thx in advance
PS. Juju, what Bios optimization guide are you refering to?
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as always, a clean driver installation requires to uninstall the existent driver first (w/ admin. rights), restart the operating system, install the new driver (w/ admin. rigths) and restart OS again...
... but as a guru you surely know this already
btw, it's in general a good idea to mention the platform/operating system used... at least w/ hardware/driver related problems.
Norbert
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Norbert
Thought I mentioned it, but you're right..
The OS is WinXP Pro SP3, the card is a Sapphire 9600 XT 256 mg AGP, no problems before, with sketchup 5 on any driver.
I did follow the book regarding uninstallation of previous drivers:
- administrator
- uninstall driver
- reboot
- clean garbage left behind
- reboot
- run in safe mode
- use driver cleaner: clean ATI leftovers; - clean driver.cab, SP3.cab
- reboot
- scan registry with Advanced System Optimizer: clean anything from registry related to Ati
- install new driver
- reboot.
I do that procedure before any driver installation. I even create a restore point and backup the system state before such operations. So I don't think that's the problem.
thx anyway
PS the Guru term comes from a long way back..., there's so much more to life..
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@guru said:
loooong list snipped
okie, sounds safe
if an older ATI driver version doesn't help, you mabye should get rid of the ATI card and switch to an e.g. nVidia GeForce 7900 GS/GTX (starting by approx. 100.- U$) which is probably the fastest (from nVidia) you can get for the AGP slot...
... or drop the whole system, which is obviously not a recent one, and invest the money in something more current as e.g. an Intel Core Duo w/ a nVidia 88xx series (PCIe).
Norbert
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@unknownuser said:
... or drop the whole system, which is obviously not a recent one, and invest the money in something more current as e.g. an Intel Core Duo w/ a nVidia 88xx series (PCIe).
That's what I intend to do, but I want to maintain my present system as a working station as it's more than capable for CAD and 3d visualisation operations, and is essencial in scene rendering phases (half the final rendering's total time
.I'll probably buy for this system the fastest / best AGP card I can get!
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@guru said:
I'll probably buy for this system the fastest / best AGP card I can get!
which is (under Windows) a nVidia Quadro FX (or GeForce) only. Don't buy ATI Radeon, dunno the FireGL stuff of them.
Norbert
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@guru said:
PS. Juju, what Bios optimization guide are you refering to?
There was a BIOS optimisation guide that helped improve performance of the Omega drivers, I can't find it on the site any more, so I'm guessing it's not necessary any more.
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I'm going to run an openGL viewer I ran into today, to see if the drivers have specific problems with open GL 1.5.
I'll let you know how it goes, later on..
Regards
Guru
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