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    remus
    last edited by 7 May 2008, 20:14

    Kwist, i find it hard to believe that a kid of 6 will be deliberately harassing someone in a sexual manner, I mean they're 6 for god's sake!

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      kwistenbiebel
      last edited by 7 May 2008, 20:23

      @remus said:

      Kwist, i find it hard to believe that a kid of 6 will be deliberately harassing someone in a sexual manner, I mean they're 6 for god's sake!

      I share your opinion. Kids are kids.
      (Unless we're talking the rare occasion of a mentally ill kid trying to copy grown up behaviour in a violent way, but we have good hospitals for those(I hope)as they need help)

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        kwistenbiebel
        last edited by 7 May 2008, 20:31

        @unknownuser said:

        @kwistenbiebel said:

        I must admit though that even Belgium is loosing some of that common sense lately.

        Are you referring to the "Fenomenale Feminatheek" thing?

        Yes, among other things.
        (note: 'The fenomenal Feminateek' is a vintage erotic image collection of a famous Belgian surrealistic writer (Louis Paul Boon). The display of these images was forbidden by local community.)

        One of the major things that makes me decide we're losing some common sense is the way that politicians make new laws that already were covered by the constitutional rights.

        For instance, Belgium voted a law against 'racist talk' (prison sentences etc..) while the constitution already described 'freedom of speech' to the extent people aren't damaged (in Dutch called 'smaad'.)
        It's a case of politics trying to gain more control over people and install a system based on fear to keep them calm and let them walk the straight line.

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          Stinkie
          last edited by 7 May 2008, 20:31

          Fear? Come on, hombre! You're not telling me you think anyone's afraid of our government, are you!? πŸ’š

          As for the "anti racism law", that's just an update of the laws we already had. Useful in some cases, too. We shouldn't go overboard with this kind of thing, though. Take the "anti revisionism law" (it's illegal in Belgium to deny the existence of death camps during WW2). An abomination, I feel. I deplore revisionists, but they should be able to speak their minds. Of course, I won't protest if they get punched in the stomach while doing so. πŸ’š

          The Feminatheek thing was ... ridiculous. The fifties are back! Be sure to go to church next sunday, Kwisten! Bigotry ... yuck.

          (Oh: Boon was not a surrealist.)

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            Stinkie
            last edited by 7 May 2008, 20:45

            I saw that reply before you removed it, Kwisten. Van Ostaijen ... πŸ’š

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              kwistenbiebel
              last edited by 7 May 2008, 20:59

              Exactly...I got those two mixed up for a minute. 😳
              Louis Paul Boon was the guy of 'Kapellekesbaan' right? (romantic, rural writer)

              (sorry, way off-topic)

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                Stinkie
                last edited by 7 May 2008, 21:02

                Yeah. Not "rural", but close enough. We deviated a tad, indeed. πŸ˜„

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                  kwistenbiebel
                  last edited by 7 May 2008, 21:08

                  Anyway,
                  'Fear' maybe was too big of a word to describe what I meant.
                  You can't ignore though that less is allowed. More rules, more control.
                  What was once regulated by common sense and old traditions ( old Catholic principles are wearing of in this part of Europe) now seems to be overtaken by law making.
                  Politics to control peoples conscience.
                  That's slowly heading back to the eigtheen hundreds in my opinion....

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                    Mike Lucey
                    last edited by 8 May 2008, 11:37

                    Yes, I agree with Alan about some of the very low life Solicitors /
                    Lawyers that are willing to stoop to any depths in order to make a
                    living. The TV and Yellow Pages advertising bunch are also here in
                    this country and the UK.

                    One of the reasons for their success is because they are allowed to
                    work on a 'One Foal No Fee' basis. I can understand that an injured
                    party may not always have the funds to take a case and the No Foal
                    No Fee system is acceptable here.

                    But the onus should be on the solicitor / lawyer to use good judgement
                    before taking on such a case. This has not been the situation over
                    the past number of years in this country. Until recently the defending
                    party had to pay their own costs after successfully defending a case
                    brought against them as its not possible to get money out of a plaintiff
                    with no assets!

                    Last year there were moves to change the law here in Ireland and make
                    the plaintiffs solicitor liable for the defendants costs should the
                    case be proven to be fraudulent. I think something along these lines has
                    been brought in but not sure exactly what. However we are seeing far
                    fewer fraudulent claims these days !

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                      Mike Lucey
                      last edited by 8 May 2008, 11:58

                      I've gone off topic sort of in my last post.

                      I can remember back when I was a little lad going to school.
                      If we stepped out of line we got 'six of the best' across the
                      bum with a leather or cain. I really believe it did no long
                      lasting harm and put us on the straight and narrow. It was
                      over and done with in a few minutes and life moved on. The
                      lesson was remember as it was associated with some PAIN!

                      These days corporal punishment is a big No No. I think this
                      is mistake. I can understand this attitude in Europe as we
                      have abolished capital punishment years ago but in much of
                      the USA it still stands. I believe Texas still has the death
                      sentence for certain crimes but teachers are not allowed to
                      chastise students with the cain. This simply does not make
                      sense to me.

                      I would go as far to say its natural for a parent (teachers
                      undertake the parents role in school) to physically chastise
                      its offspring. Just look at a bitch feeding her litter. If one
                      of the pups is misbehaving he gets a sharp rebuff that puts
                      some manners into him. It works and is natural! Why should
                      humans be any different?

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