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      lewiswadsworth
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      @unknownuser said:

      @lewiswadsworth said:

      I know...I have a beta copy for the upcoming SketchUp version.

      h8!!!

      I beg your pardon, Julian...what does that mean? Here's the link...you just sign up and they give you download rights.

      http://nxt.accurender.com/files/folders/arnxt/entry1668.aspx

      Anyway, weren't we talking about other modelers?

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        lewiswadsworth
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        @remus said:

        Has anyone here tried silo? it looks quite interesting (and more importantly a bargain!)

        link: http://www.nevercenter.com/

        That really looks almost too good to be true for a mesh modeler. Something else to add to the list of things to play with...and just when I was happily settling down to play with my faculty license to MOI!

        Nevercenter is based in Salt Lake City...I've never heard of them or this product before. Has anyone here ever used it for anything?

        Thomas, most importantly Rhino 4 added 2D layout capabilities (something like ACAD's paperspace) so that you can use it as a full CAD solution without resorting to any plugins or other programs. I haven't had to upgrade my AutoCAD license since Rhino 4 came out...what a relief to tell those AutoDesk jerks what they can do with their extortion--I mean, subscription--packages!

        McNeel made a great deal of improvements to mesh and solids handling for Rhino 4, but I frankly have not found the changes affecting my workflow much.

        I do have the newer version of Penguin for Rhino, as well...I actually find Penguin a little buggy, but in general I can if necessary use it to produce decent NPR renderings.

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          linea
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          hmmm,

          Rhino 4 sounds interesting, I was using Rhino v2 years ago but I moved away from it and went through a naive snails-pace "Only Autodesk for everything" phase.

          Has anybody tried Wings 3d?, I downloaded it the other day, it's free, certainly simple to use and looks like it could be pretty useful.
          http://www.wings3d.com

          I really like the feel of MOI, the interface is great but I don't think it is that straightforward to use.

          Remus originally wrote
          @unknownuser said:

          Id really like to find soemthing thats better for producign plans than SU and layout.

          I am constantly hunting the evolutionary missing link - a 2d cad handshake with Sketchup. It pains me to say it but I still think AutoCAD or a flavour of Intellicad (such as ProgeCAD) are hard to beat for this. I tried Spirit but I didn't understand it at all.

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            thomthom
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            I'm interested in a package that'll be suited for landscape. I some times get projects where there's allot of landscape, large terrain and vegetation. And that makes SU choke just thinking of it.

            Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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              ilay7k
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              @unknownuser said:

              I'm interested in a package that'll be suited for landscape. I some times get projects where there's allot of landscape, large terrain and vegetation. And that makes SU choke just thinking of it.

              ...vue inf/xstream....
              and add-ons to other modeling programms like d.p.i.t. for cinema4d, tgen for xsi and ect...

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                juju
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                @lewiswadsworth said:

                @unknownuser said:

                @lewiswadsworth said:

                I know...I have a beta copy for the upcoming SketchUp version.

                h8!!!

                I beg your pardon, Julian...what does that mean? Here's the link...you just sign up and they give you download rights.

                http://nxt.accurender.com/files/folders/arnxt/entry1668.aspx

                Anyway, weren't we talking about other modelers?

                OK, I misunderstood you somehow. I thought you had a beta release of SU7.

                Save the Earth, it's the only planet with chocolate.

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                  linea
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                  Thanks for the info Lewis, Wings 3d will probably get uninstalled today.

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                    lewiswadsworth
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                    @unknownuser said:

                    Thanks for the info Lewis, Wings 3d will probably get uninstalled today.

                    It's funny that you should write that...I was just upgrading the three computers in my office to the newest Ubuntu (actually, Ubuntu Studio, which makes me wish I was a musician and not an architect)...and I made of point of installing Wings3D on each of them.

                    Not that anyone will ever use it, probably, but it's there along with the other slightly lame 3D "solutions" available from the Ubuntu repositories. Actually, some interesting things I hadn't seen before did turn up when I did a search in the Ubuntu repositories under the term "3D." What in the world is "Vertex"? "Whitedune"?

                    Edit: Vertex is a seriously incomplete OpenGL model creator (made very little sense), Whitedune is a seriously old-looking VRML editor. Why in the world is this stuff in the Ubuntu repositories?

                    Incidentally, a little research revealed that Wings3D is still under development, if only barely. They haven't managed to even write a complete manual, and they started that documentation project in 2003.

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                      lewiswadsworth
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                      Wings3D has been around for a long time, and though stable is not undergoing further development. It's actually rather interesting (in a geeky trivial way) as an app, being one of the few (or maybe the only) graphics programs you are likely to find written in the obscure communications-oriented computer language Erlang.

                      Ignorant Linux-geeks often suggest that there is not real difference between SketchUp and Wings3D, but I found Wings3D to be lacking in the kind of precision you sometimes want if you are modeling (say) architecture. Like real units with a relation to real measurement units. And snaps. And axis/construction planes. Constraints of various kinds are available, but much more primitive than in modern modelers.

                      Not that you couldn't model architecture with Wings3D...if, you could bear modeling with an open-minded "Well, that's about what it should look like..." while worrying about the hard requirements later on...Everything is rather based on extrusion.

                      Wings3D isabout as close as you will get to SketchUp on Linux, if you're not lucky with running SU under WINE.

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                        linea
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                        @unknownuser said:

                        What in the world is "Vertex"? "Whitedune"?

                        I have no idea, it sounds fantastically obscure.

                        Yeah Linux has it's advantages but the apps available aren't going to attract designers for some time yet. Incidentally have you heard of React OS? I'm actually typing now in an internet cafe on a react os system which seems pretty good, very similar to Windows but really minimal.

                        At the end of the day I love Sketchup so I'll be running windows for some time yet.

                        edit: I expect Mike Lucey to comment now and advise all us luddites to just get a mac.

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                          GUNAWAN W
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                          CorelDraw not a cad , but it can do most of your cad presentation need.

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