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    • E Offline
      ever
      last edited by

      Try PDF995: http://www.pdf995.com/download.html
      It works as a virtual printer

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        Goggin
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        @gaieus said:

        Hi Goggin,

        I'd have two questions:

        • Do you use any of the graphical styles provided now in SU6? Those might behave differently when exported.

        I don't think so. I'm not even sure what those are. Mine is a simple floor plan-- nothing fancy.

        @unknownuser said:

        • Have you tried to export from LayOut?

        Yeah, that was what I was thinking I'd try next. I haven't used LayOut yet, but I'll give it a go today or tomorrow.

        I figured I must be doing something wrong since this is a key feature-- if it doesn't work well, then I don't think Pro would be worth purchasing.

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        • GaieusG Offline
          Gaieus
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          Wel,, I've read about some problems with printing or exporting to PDF and also that mostly there was a solution (I don't even ahve a printer πŸ˜„) but I cannot locate those threads.

          The other idea however - to use a virtual PDF printer, is not bad though.
          I use PDFCreator for instance.

          Gai...

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          • K Offline
            Kenny
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            Make sure you have the high quality settings on in the print dialogue box. The highest quality setting is the vector based HLR. Check the 'use high accuracy' HLR
            box when printing. The only problem with this is that it doesn't
            display textures or shadows. If using the non HLR settings to display
            textures and shadows, for best results be sure to set the print quality to ultra high defintion.

            Kenny

            http://www.townscapesolutions.co.uk/

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              Goggin
              last edited by

              Thanks for the advice. BTW, it's not just printing-- the file looks bad on my screen even before I print. I don't think adjusting the print options should affect that, should it?

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              • GaieusG Offline
                Gaieus
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                Could you show a screenshot of what it looks like?

                Gai...

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                • K Offline
                  Kenny
                  last edited by

                  The print settings shouldn't affect the display. Make sure you have got hardware accelaration on (Window, Preferences, Open GL)

                  Kenny

                  http://www.townscapesolutions.co.uk/

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                    Goggin
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                    @kenny said:

                    The print settings shouldn't affect the display. Make sure you have got hardware accelaration on (Window, Preferences, Open GL)

                    Kenny

                    Is that in SketchUP or Acrobat?

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                      Goggin
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                      @gaieus said:

                      Could you show a screenshot of what it looks like?

                      I have one, but I don't know how to post a file here. Is there some dummy site on this MB I can upload to and then link to from here?

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                      • GaieusG Offline
                        Gaieus
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                        Here we have an attachment server:
                        http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/viewtopic.php?f=77&t=760

                        Gai...

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                          Goggin
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                          Thanks, Gaieus. Let's see if this works. Sketch-up floor plan on the left, what the image looks like after export to Acrobat on the right:

                          Bathroom Floor Plan

                          BTW, I did have those setting correct, Kenny.

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                            Anssi
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                            You have some funny large value set in the Profile width box. Setting it to Match Screen display is usually enough

                            Please don't use the BMP format for image attachments, the file sizes are enormous and they take ages to load

                            Anssi
                            dialog.png

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                              Goggin
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                              @anssi said:

                              Please don't use the BMP format for image attachments, the file sizes are enormous and they take ages to load

                              Sorry about that. I just used the screen-capture program that Gaieus recommended in an earlier thread: "Gadwin PrintScreen". I guess it defaults to .bmp. Can I still use that and convert to another format that doesn't create such large files?

                              I'll fool around with your recommendations, but I'm not quite sure I understand what you're getting at. I set the drawing size parameters so that it would be to scale at 1/4" = 1' in Acrobat.

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                                Goggin
                                last edited by

                                @gaieus said:

                                Have you tried to export from LayOut?

                                Just tried it. Same result-- bad.

                                Anssii: I checked again, and I do have the "Profile Lines" section set to "Match screen display". I'm not sure what the "profile width" box is, though. Did you mean "Drawing Size width" box?

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                                • AnssiA Offline
                                  Anssi
                                  last edited by

                                  Sorry, my bad memory. Of course I meant the Profile lines box(and Section Lines, too)

                                  I cannot say right away what the problem is now. I remember once getting the same result, but not what caused it. Let's think about it...

                                  Well-you say you adjust the page size to get the right scale. For me it works the other way round. I set the scale, and the page size adjusts itself (as I tab out of the scale box). I never touch the page size settings unless I want output that is not to scale.

                                  Can you attach your skp file?

                                  Anssi

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                                    Goggin
                                    last edited by

                                    @anssi said:

                                    Well-you say you adjust the page size to get the right scale. For me it works the other way round. I set the scale, and the page size adjusts itself (as I tab out of the scale box). I never touch the page size settings unless I want output that is not to scale.

                                    Sorry if I didn't make that clear. I set the Drawing Size "scale" parameters* and let the "size" parameters adjust themselves.

                                    *This was not easy, though, as SketchUp kept trying to tell me I was exceeding the page size limit. I had to do it in a certain order, or it would reject it.

                                    @unknownuser said:

                                    Can you attach your skp file?

                                    Hmmm. Having trouble doing that. I copied my SketchUp file into the sketchucation newbie folder, but when I click on it, I don't get a URL address to link to-- just and empty (Mozilla) browser page. It worked fine with that .bmp file I did earlier. If you want to look at it, it's in the newbie folder under "Bathroom Floor Plan".

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                                    • boofredlayB Offline
                                      boofredlay
                                      last edited by

                                      Here you go.

                                      http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/sas/Newbie/Bathroom%20Floor%20Plan.skp

                                      http://www.coroflot.com/boofredlay

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                                      • AnssiA Offline
                                        Anssi
                                        last edited by

                                        I had no problem exporting. This is what my Export dialog looked like
                                        dialog3.png
                                        And this is the PDF I got:
                                        testi.pdf
                                        Cheers

                                        Anssi

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                                          Goggin
                                          last edited by

                                          @anssi said:

                                          I had no problem exporting.

                                          I didn't either!

                                          But then I figured out what the problem is. I have to use 2D export to get the .pdf option, and in that case it only exports what's visible on the screen. In order for me to get the whole floorplan on the screen, I have to make it much smaller. In that case, you don't get individual lines-- it's like you did a screen capture, and you lose all the detail.

                                          Try it again with that bathroom floorplan shrunk down like this (don't adjust the magnification):

                                          Link

                                          Interestingly, this seems to happen the same way when you use "insert" in LayOut. You only get what's visible on the screen from the .skp file. And if you shrink it down enough to get an entire floorplan (in my case a set of floorplans), you just end up with a blurry image.

                                          Maybe I'm missing something, but if you can't export to Acrobat at scale, and at 24x36 paper size, then it's not much use in a real-world situation, because that's what's you're going to have to give to builders and city planning depts., etc. I have to believe that this has been worked out, and that I am missing something.

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                                          • GaieusG Offline
                                            Gaieus
                                            last edited by

                                            I cannot jump into the discussion now as I'm not at home with my Pro version to export PDF.

                                            So I just about Gadwin Print screen; you can select the output file type - jpg (as it can be compressed) is the smallest.
                                            πŸ˜„

                                            Gai...

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