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  • G Offline
    Goggin
    last edited by 12 Dec 2007, 22:45

    I find that I need to export my files to PDF format in order to have them printed on 24x36 paper at print-shops. But the quality of the image is terrible. The lines are so thick, that you can't even see walls on floor plans. It's just a big blur.

    Am I doing something wrong? Is there a way to export the file to PDF and preserve the image quality? Or, is there some other file type I can use? The print shops I go to, including Kinko's, don't have SketchUp on their systems, and I can only access the smaller printers from my laptop when I'm at one of their workstations; not the large printers for 24x36 inch paper

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    • G Offline
      Goggin
      last edited by 13 Dec 2007, 01:41

      I should add...

      I only have the free version of Adobe acrobat, but when my architect sends me a PDF file that she has exported from AutoCad, it looks fine. I don't think it's a problem on acrobat's end, but I figured I'd include this info just in case.

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        Gaieus
        last edited by 13 Dec 2007, 07:33

        Hi Goggin,

        I'd have two questions:

        • Do you use any of the graphical styles provided now in SU6? Those might behave differently when exported.
        • Have you tried to export from LayOut?

        Gai...

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        • E Offline
          ever
          last edited by 13 Dec 2007, 08:10

          Try PDF995: http://www.pdf995.com/download.html
          It works as a virtual printer

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          • G Offline
            Goggin
            last edited by 13 Dec 2007, 14:13

            @gaieus said:

            Hi Goggin,

            I'd have two questions:

            • Do you use any of the graphical styles provided now in SU6? Those might behave differently when exported.

            I don't think so. I'm not even sure what those are. Mine is a simple floor plan-- nothing fancy.

            @unknownuser said:

            • Have you tried to export from LayOut?

            Yeah, that was what I was thinking I'd try next. I haven't used LayOut yet, but I'll give it a go today or tomorrow.

            I figured I must be doing something wrong since this is a key feature-- if it doesn't work well, then I don't think Pro would be worth purchasing.

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            • G Offline
              Gaieus
              last edited by 13 Dec 2007, 15:27

              Wel,, I've read about some problems with printing or exporting to PDF and also that mostly there was a solution (I don't even ahve a printer 😄) but I cannot locate those threads.

              The other idea however - to use a virtual PDF printer, is not bad though.
              I use PDFCreator for instance.

              Gai...

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              • K Offline
                Kenny
                last edited by 13 Dec 2007, 16:06

                Make sure you have the high quality settings on in the print dialogue box. The highest quality setting is the vector based HLR. Check the 'use high accuracy' HLR
                box when printing. The only problem with this is that it doesn't
                display textures or shadows. If using the non HLR settings to display
                textures and shadows, for best results be sure to set the print quality to ultra high defintion.

                Kenny

                http://www.townscapesolutions.co.uk/

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                  Goggin
                  last edited by 13 Dec 2007, 16:08

                  Thanks for the advice. BTW, it's not just printing-- the file looks bad on my screen even before I print. I don't think adjusting the print options should affect that, should it?

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                    Gaieus
                    last edited by 13 Dec 2007, 16:18

                    Could you show a screenshot of what it looks like?

                    Gai...

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                    • K Offline
                      Kenny
                      last edited by 13 Dec 2007, 16:24

                      The print settings shouldn't affect the display. Make sure you have got hardware accelaration on (Window, Preferences, Open GL)

                      Kenny

                      http://www.townscapesolutions.co.uk/

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                        Goggin
                        last edited by 13 Dec 2007, 16:40

                        @kenny said:

                        The print settings shouldn't affect the display. Make sure you have got hardware accelaration on (Window, Preferences, Open GL)

                        Kenny

                        Is that in SketchUP or Acrobat?

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                          Goggin
                          last edited by 13 Dec 2007, 17:19

                          @gaieus said:

                          Could you show a screenshot of what it looks like?

                          I have one, but I don't know how to post a file here. Is there some dummy site on this MB I can upload to and then link to from here?

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                            Gaieus
                            last edited by 13 Dec 2007, 17:21

                            Here we have an attachment server:
                            http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/viewtopic.php?f=77&t=760

                            Gai...

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                              Goggin
                              last edited by 13 Dec 2007, 19:28

                              Thanks, Gaieus. Let's see if this works. Sketch-up floor plan on the left, what the image looks like after export to Acrobat on the right:

                              Bathroom Floor Plan

                              BTW, I did have those setting correct, Kenny.

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                              • AnssiA Offline
                                Anssi
                                last edited by 13 Dec 2007, 19:41

                                You have some funny large value set in the Profile width box. Setting it to Match Screen display is usually enough

                                Please don't use the BMP format for image attachments, the file sizes are enormous and they take ages to load

                                Anssi
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                                  Goggin
                                  last edited by 13 Dec 2007, 19:55

                                  @anssi said:

                                  Please don't use the BMP format for image attachments, the file sizes are enormous and they take ages to load

                                  Sorry about that. I just used the screen-capture program that Gaieus recommended in an earlier thread: "Gadwin PrintScreen". I guess it defaults to .bmp. Can I still use that and convert to another format that doesn't create such large files?

                                  I'll fool around with your recommendations, but I'm not quite sure I understand what you're getting at. I set the drawing size parameters so that it would be to scale at 1/4" = 1' in Acrobat.

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                                    Goggin
                                    last edited by 13 Dec 2007, 20:16

                                    @gaieus said:

                                    Have you tried to export from LayOut?

                                    Just tried it. Same result-- bad.

                                    Anssii: I checked again, and I do have the "Profile Lines" section set to "Match screen display". I'm not sure what the "profile width" box is, though. Did you mean "Drawing Size width" box?

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                                      Anssi
                                      last edited by 13 Dec 2007, 20:30

                                      Sorry, my bad memory. Of course I meant the Profile lines box(and Section Lines, too)

                                      I cannot say right away what the problem is now. I remember once getting the same result, but not what caused it. Let's think about it...

                                      Well-you say you adjust the page size to get the right scale. For me it works the other way round. I set the scale, and the page size adjusts itself (as I tab out of the scale box). I never touch the page size settings unless I want output that is not to scale.

                                      Can you attach your skp file?

                                      Anssi

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                                        Goggin
                                        last edited by 13 Dec 2007, 21:16

                                        @anssi said:

                                        Well-you say you adjust the page size to get the right scale. For me it works the other way round. I set the scale, and the page size adjusts itself (as I tab out of the scale box). I never touch the page size settings unless I want output that is not to scale.

                                        Sorry if I didn't make that clear. I set the Drawing Size "scale" parameters* and let the "size" parameters adjust themselves.

                                        *This was not easy, though, as SketchUp kept trying to tell me I was exceeding the page size limit. I had to do it in a certain order, or it would reject it.

                                        @unknownuser said:

                                        Can you attach your skp file?

                                        Hmmm. Having trouble doing that. I copied my SketchUp file into the sketchucation newbie folder, but when I click on it, I don't get a URL address to link to-- just and empty (Mozilla) browser page. It worked fine with that .bmp file I did earlier. If you want to look at it, it's in the newbie folder under "Bathroom Floor Plan".

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                                        • boofredlayB Offline
                                          boofredlay
                                          last edited by 13 Dec 2007, 21:29

                                          Here you go.

                                          http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/sas/Newbie/Bathroom%20Floor%20Plan.skp

                                          http://www.coroflot.com/boofredlay

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