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    • Ivica ValjakI Offline
      Ivica Valjak
      last edited by

      Look inside your donut and you will probably find face that is giveing you problem.Click on face of donut and right click-hide face.

      https://www.facebook.com/deklark.kent

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      • M Offline
        Masta Squidge
        last edited by

        That was a problem i had with the circle the first time i made it, but i made sure it wasnt there this time.

        Here it is with the front face hidden:

        http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/sas/Newbie/02.JPG

        If it helps, it was made using follow me. I made half of a face, flipped it to make the other side, then pulled it around a circle to create the whole thing. So both sides are exactly the same.

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        • soloS Offline
          solo
          last edited by

          Can you post the skippy?

          What renderer are you using?

          http://www.solos-art.com

          If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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            Masta Squidge
            last edited by

            Im using kerkythea, and for some reason the file size is like 8 MB (no idea why, ive deleted all the extra stuff) so ill host it on the warehouse.

            Odd, after uploading it says its only 2MB (still bigger than it should be though)

            Error 404 (Not Found)!!1

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            • GaieusG Offline
              Gaieus
              last edited by

              Well, no wonder the size - there are rather high-poly objects in it!
              Yet I found unnecessary faces inside the group with the triangle and the cross, too. You can tell they are there when editing the groups and selecting the front face - it does not select the whole (although it should since the whole is smoothed).

              Delete those, too - though they will not considerably affect the file size.

              For rendering it is OK - the more high poly you have, the smoother the final render will be.

              Gai...

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              • M Offline
                Masta Squidge
                last edited by

                Yeah i forgot about those, they are far enough away from the camera that you dont notice it.

                But that doesn't explain my problem with the circle. 😡

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                • GaieusG Offline
                  Gaieus
                  last edited by

                  But you have solved the problem with the circle, haven't you?
                  Have you rendered the scene ever since?

                  Gai...

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                  • M Offline
                    Masta Squidge
                    last edited by

                    the circle never had the problem of interior faces. The last image was to show that there wasnt an inside face that was causing the problem.

                    I still have this problem. Here is a render i just did looks terrible because i have a ground level plane AND a global on at the same time, but you can see the line.

                    http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/sas/Newbie/ORender3.jpg

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                    • GaieusG Offline
                      Gaieus
                      last edited by

                      Yes, that line is apparently there. I also ran some test renders with Kerky and the same result. I even raised the smooth/soften percentage to 100 % in SU but nothing. I just cannot imagine what causes it.

                      Gai...

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                        Masta Squidge
                        last edited by

                        @gaieus said:

                        I just cannot imagine what causes it.

                        Thats what im saying... Its very irritating, because thats supposed to be a smoothed edge according to SU. I would make this stuff in blender, but im still trying to figure that program out.

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                        • GaieusG Offline
                          Gaieus
                          last edited by

                          Maybe try to do that extrusion along the ring again. I can imagine that there is a very-very small "gap" in between that maybe even SU cannot "notice" (there is a tolerance level in it). I just zoomed in so much I could almost already see the electrons running up and down but could not see any defect in there.

                          Gai...

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                            Masta Squidge
                            last edited by

                            ive done it three times using a different method each time. the first method was to create one half, flip it, position it, then make a face and use follow me to go around the side.
                            Extruded a face around a circle.
                            Extruded half a face around a circle, mirrored it, and lined it up.
                            Same result each time.

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                            • GaieusG Offline
                              Gaieus
                              last edited by

                              I have also cut it in half, mirrored it and reglued to each other (hoping that the other side is "OK" as there isn't anything visible problem there) but the same result.

                              Gai...

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                              • M Offline
                                Masta Squidge
                                last edited by

                                Yeah i think later on ill be moving on to the Kerky forums to try and get one of the higher ups to come to my rescue. I happen to like this scene, i think it looks nice with the simple shapes and my handle. The shapes btw are Playstation controller buttons. I have a 1600x1200 render as my desktop but at that resolution that line sticks out like a sore thumb and id like to get rid of it.

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                                • GaieusG Offline
                                  Gaieus
                                  last edited by

                                  Yeah, I was just about to suggest you to visit the Kerky forums. There, in the "Integration" category there is a SU subforum for issues like this. Maybe it is an export glitch, I don't know.
                                  Tomasz can tell there.

                                  Gai...

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                                  • soloS Offline
                                    solo
                                    last edited by

                                    http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/1255/2007091707020113sln5.jpg

                                    http://www.solos-art.com

                                    If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                                    • M Offline
                                      Masta Squidge
                                      last edited by

                                      @solo said:

                                      http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/1255/2007091707020113sln5.jpg

                                      Well i still see the line, so its still there... But that does look nice, very nice materials. I have a similar red car paint type material that i managed to pound out after spending about 3 hours on the kerky forums looking at how tos and stuff. I would post a picture of it but my PC is so ridiculously old that ive been rendering this 200x200 image for the last 2 hours. The ray tracing alone took 3688 seconds, or 61 minutes.

                                      But when its done ill put it up i guess.

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                                      • N Offline
                                        Nick W
                                        last edited by

                                        Masta Squidge (name?), if you haven't already solved this problem, I would think that the problem might be in K, not in SU. I have limited experience in K, but try the smoothing setting for the material you apply to the donut.

                                        The folks at the K forum are great about helping too, and could probably identify the issue quickly.

                                        http://www.nrwiesneski.com

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                                        • M Offline
                                          Masta Squidge
                                          last edited by

                                          My name is Rob or RJ if you wish. I havent already solved this, but the smoothing has been tried. Its starting to get irritating lol.

                                          But at the moment im working on putting a mini install of XP on one of the computers sitting in my room, so ill get to this mess later.

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                                          • F Offline
                                            Fletch
                                            last edited by

                                            ok RJ, I d/l'd your model, and had a theory it was a SU UV mapping thing... will try some things and let you know. initial tests were inconclusive but not heartening.

                                            Fletch
                                            Twilight Render Cross-platform Plugin for SketchUp on PC or Mac

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