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      thegoodguy
      last edited by

      Wow!

      I kind of owe you all a little apology. The rectangular profile was super-simplified to illustrate the problem. I realise now that the impacts any solutions you guys may post. The actual profile I want to use is this:
      profile.JPG

      Box; As I mentioned in my initial post, I tried Upright Extruder. It produces results much like the vertex option. It's good, but not perfect. The edge-extrusion/joint-push-pull produces similar results too, and also, I don't think that option would work with the profile I need. True-Bend is a great suggestion. After "flattening" the ring rail/path using the Unfold tool, producing a flattened complete ring using follow-me and the profile, and then using True-Bend, I'm getting exactly what I need.
      flat-ring.JPG

      The only issue I'm having now is the final solid isn't the "solid" that's needed for 3D-printing. There are many errors that Solid-Inspector finds. I know this is due to the high resultion I need to get a good final result when the ring is actually cast. I'm experimenting with scaling up before True-Bending. Hopefully that will solve the solid issue.

      Thank you all for your input, suggestions and solutions. They've been v helpful and have reduced my headache πŸ˜„

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        pilou
        last edited by

        And why not use Curviloft for propagate some profils on rails?

        Frenchy Pilou
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          thegoodguy
          last edited by

          And the winner is ... Curviloft

          Excellent solution pilou. Thank you v much. The perfect shape and a perfect solid with no complex intersections to fix.

          winner.JPG

          Should fit snuggly against this lovely little Edwardian engagement ring.

          ring.jpg

          Thanks again, everyone.

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            Box
            last edited by

            If you are doing a lot of jewelry it would be well worth your time to look into using vertex tools and true bend. It makes it easy to create rings from non symmetric geometry. And you can be as detailed as you need as long as you model cleanly. This required no cleanup after the bend except the removal of the double inner faces at the join. I only used 96 segments but you can easily go to the 200 you were using if need be.

            https://i.imgur.com/dNgiCt6.gif

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              thegoodguy
              last edited by

              Hi again,

              Upon closer inspection, although the solidness is good and the profile alignment is good along all of the "straight" section of the rail, using Curviloft, the profile does twist on the shaped part of the rail. Back to TrueBend and solid-fixing. Scaling up x1000 reduced the errors to only 3 ... phew.

              Just thought you might like to know.

              x-section-curviloft.JPG

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                pilou
                last edited by

                Maybe we can try something...
                Post the file of Profils and Rails in dxf format and let see that Moi3D (nurbs) will made as result in SKP format export...

                ...not sure...of the result πŸ˜„ (it's not your file just a test)

                Here the structure of export SKP

                humhum.jpg

                Reloaded in SU
                more_poly1jpg.jpg

                I must ask more polygons in export! πŸ€“ (rendered as SKP file)

                morepoly.jpg

                This time edges are perfect! (for an SKP file) πŸ˜„

                more poly2.jpg

                Frenchy Pilou
                Is beautiful that please without concept!
                My Little site :)

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                  thegoodguy
                  last edited by

                  Hi pilou,

                  Rail and profile DXF file uploaded.

                  Thanks


                  rail+profile.zip

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                    pilou
                    last edited by

                    Next version of Moi (V4) will be more adapted for erase problems of the DXF!

                    Another thing : i must reduce the number of Control Points of the curves!
                    Or even redraw over it...
                    (Whithout change the form of course! )

                    GIF_numerous points.gif

                    GIF_numerouspts2.gif

                    sharp_angle.jpg

                    Frenchy Pilou
                    Is beautiful that please without concept!
                    My Little site :)

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                      pilou
                      last edited by

                      OK: reloadable! πŸ˜„

                      Just a question : does the section is on the good place or must be placed like that ?
                      Or by it's gravity's center ?

                      GIF_as_that.gif

                      Frenchy Pilou
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                      My Little site :)

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                        thegoodguy
                        last edited by

                        Looks good pilou.

                        I finally got it done using TrueBend.

                        Thanks.

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                          pilou
                          last edited by

                          With section on the middle side ... path with 20 points against 200 points! πŸ˜‰

                          https://images2.imgbox.com/6d/47/hMrcKzRK_o.gif

                          Frenchy Pilou
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                          My Little site :)

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                            pilou
                            last edited by

                            Just for be sure : your dxf was made directly from SketchUP or from another program ?

                            Frenchy Pilou
                            Is beautiful that please without concept!
                            My Little site :)

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                              pilou
                              last edited by

                              Many regulates can be done... πŸ˜‰
                              This structure will be the SKP structure! πŸ€“

                              https://images2.imgbox.com/da/64/BAQAY5NM_o.gif

                              Here one...(skp file rendered)

                              https://images2.imgbox.com/2d/cf/OGGhxqR7_o.jpg

                              ps SKP linked


                              pinky_ring.zip

                              Frenchy Pilou
                              Is beautiful that please without concept!
                              My Little site :)

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                                thegoodguy
                                last edited by

                                @pilou said:

                                Just for be sure : your dxf was made directly from SketchUP or from another program ?

                                Hi pilou,

                                Yes, it was exported from SU.

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                                  pilou
                                  last edited by

                                  Thx for the info!

                                  Dxf from SketchUp are specific because curves are polylines so numerous "control points" !
                                  Maybe Circles and Arcs can be exported as real curves...

                                  With this one by Joergberg πŸ€“ (for SU Make)
                                  So circles and arcs are not "segmented" ! 😎
                                  dxf.jpg

                                  As we can see for the circle...that is a true curve!
                                  dxf1.jpg

                                  Frenchy Pilou
                                  Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                  My Little site :)

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