Oculus Quest
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@olishea said:
Also when the girlfriend puts on that stupid Love Island on TV I can sit there in blissful VR ignorance.
Oy! do not be dissing Love Island, I did a ton of work on that show, but yeah, I'd never watch it either.
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It works fine with unreal. Process is the same as for the Oculus go - Just with a bit more power. Edit: its Android based.
THE big plus to me is untethered, 6dof and reasonable good power (maybe 1/10 of a gtx 1060). Also very easy to take to meetings.
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@pilou said:
@unknownuser said:
It’s very powerful mate and performance is absolutely fine for me. I use it mainly to play poker and watch films in what feels like a huge cinema with 50 foot screen.
You want to say that you show in the Oculus Quest helmet is like a 50 foot screen ?
Yes. When you look into your Quest, it feels like you’re sat in a cool lounge with a huge screen in front of you.
You can also go into virtual cinemas where it 100% genuinely feels like you are looking at cinema screens!!!
This is what I mainly got the queat for....watching movies on planes and when travelling etc.
Also when the girlfriend puts on that stupid Love Island on TV I can sit there in blissful VR ignorance.
Yes Pilou. You can mirror your PC screen to the quest and do anything you want. It’s called Virtual Desktop app for quest. Works great. You can even stream your PC to a public cinema and random people from around the world can watch what you are watching on your PC screen!!! Or invite friends for a cinema night.
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No headaches and vertigo ? How many times you support this on your head ? 10, 20 minutes, more ?
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@solo said:
@olishea said:
Also when the girlfriend puts on that stupid Love Island on TV I can sit there in blissful VR ignorance.
Oy! do not be dissing Love Island, I did a ton of work on that show, but yeah, I'd never watch it either.
Lol shit sorry mate didn’t realise
Can’t stand it though.
I plug earphones in and go into my VR world lol. She’s watching garbage on a 42” TV, I’m sat in my own private cinema looking at educational things.
Another thing that’s crazy....you can setup a virtual mesh or “guardian” around you. You can do this sat down or stood up. You can do 99% of VR stuff sat down BTW. You only need to stand for involving shooting games etc.
Anyway, when you step outside of this virtual mesh, you seamlessly enter back into the “real world” by way of the front facing cameras! So you can actually step out of your VR bubble, make a brew and come back. All with the headset still on!! You’d have to see it to believe it. It’s like military technology at consumer level now.
It’s super freaky and amazing!
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@solo said:
Yeah, that's the problem, I need to run heavy models with decent resolutions, I need a beefy 1080ti at the minimum for smooth navigation, untethered means no beefy GPU.
For quick and easy testing I still use the Rift & Gtx1080. But the Quest is replacing my Go for taking my projects to clients.
The Quest won't be sufficient at all if a gtx1080ti is needed. Running heavy models can be done up to some point - you'll just have to put in a lot of time though to make it work; reducing shaders, reducing the amount of individual objects etc. Here's a nice small tech video on developing for the Quest https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvMQUz0g_Tk
Some people are developing tech for streaming the VR images to the GO/Quest from a powerful desktop (google for a video on 'ALVR' for instance). You need a 5Ghz wifi. I tested this with Google Earth VR using the Quest - it works ok-ish. I do see much potential for this if they keep developing (early alpha at the moment) - the headset would be just a 'dummy' and the heavy lifting would be done by your powerful laptop/desktop.
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@pilou said:
No headaches and vertigo ? How many times you support this on your head ? 10, 20 minutes, more ?
No headaches. No eye strain.
I get motion sickness from crazy quick movement in fast paced shooter games. But I learned a trick where you close one eye for a minute, it goes away lol. Pro gamer tips!!
I only get this once every couple of days. It’s like a disorientation feeling that quickly passes.10-20 minutes?
Erm I was up til 6am for several nights playing with this mate!!! Took headset off and it’s daylight!
But in all seriousness I can comfortably do 2-3 hours watching a film, no problem at all.
It doesn’t even feel the screen is close to your face, like I said, genuinely feels like a cinema (and you can pick where you want to sit)
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Yes all rendering will be done by the cloud.
Console gaming is finished IMO. Stadia/cloud rendering is definitely the future. You don’t even need a console, it’s like Netflix but for 4K games. Just download the app and go.
Just let google render everything for you.
The Quest is then essentially just a window into remote hardware.
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@pilou said:
Another little question
Can you control and manage your PC (like with a tablett you can run a program on the PC with programs like TeamViewer, RealVNC etc... )Yes you can work from / stream your pc-desktop to the quest. The app is called VirtualDesktop.
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It has to be said that using the Quest in “Developer Mode” unlocks its potential.
It basically allows you to side load any android app (most work fine) and PC based VR games.
I downloaded a previous Netflix APK from APKMIRROR and I can download straight into my quest for offline viewing on planes etc.
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What would be great is if it was possible to stream VR to Quest from a PC to a android app. That way the processing would be done on the highend machine.
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@pixero said:
What would be great is if it was possible to stream VR to Quest from a PC to a android app. That way the processing would be done on the highend machine.
Yes it’s being worked on right now. Wireless VR is definitely the future. The sales speak volume.
Less hardware in the VR headset would make them lighter and more comfortable too. I’m all for it!
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@unknownuser said:
Yes you can work from / stream your pc-desktop to the quest.
Thx for the video : but it's only games!
I suppose that will be the same for programms ? SketchUp for example ,..
For the moment seems you can't have in the O Quest "a full screen helmet" of what is on the PC ? -
@pilou said:
@unknownuser said:
Yes you can work from / stream your pc-desktop to the quest.
I suppose that will be the same for programms ? SketchUp for example ,..
For the moment seems you can't have in the O Quest "a full screen helmet" of what is on the PC ?I never tried it but I think you can. Look at the promo video of VirtualDesktop on the Oculus shop:
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@pilou said:
@unknownuser said:
Yes you can work from / stream your pc-desktop to the quest.
Thx for the video : but it's only games!
I suppose that will be the same for programms ? SketchUp for example ,..
For the moment seems you can't have in the O Quest "a full screen helmet" of what is on the PC ?Yes you can
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All that seems ultra modern but recall me a scene of end's life in Soylent Green !
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Hahaha pilou
VR is what you make it
It will definitely ruin some people’s lives though. 100% certain!
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Another thing that is worth considering about a VR.....
Say for example you want a nice big TV to watch movies on. 60” OLED screen costs over $2000.
You can literally just buy the family a few quests; it’s cheaper and you are now looking at 50 foot cinema screens. Don’t have to fight for the best sofa and viewing angle lol
I don’t think I would ever buy a large TV again. Just have a normal one for watching news etc, background TV and then use VR for all movies.
This is gonna be a revolution in entertainment.
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The best, most revolutionary thing about using VR in a workflow or gaming is the activity factor.
You are moving all the time. Even when sat down you are significantly more active than behind a PC. I sweat when gaming! You use your whole body, it’s beautifully ergonomic. When drawing it feels real, natural, human!
It also makes me laugh because a whole generation of gamers have been locked indoors button bashing....they can’t compete with grown men in VR games. It’s so funny. Their bodies are weak, I love it. Tables have turned, no more 12 year old kids embarrassing you in first person shooters! I’ve been training! Lolol
It actually encourages you to be fitter and stronger. When has a computer or games console ever done that?
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