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    • jujuJ Offline
      juju
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      @medeek said:

      I'm almost ready to put this new plugin out there but I'm waffling on whether to spend some additional time on the draw tool and see if I can't make the plugin work with any (wall) geometry rather than just limiting it to an add on for the Medeek Wall plugin.

      +1 for this

      Save the Earth, it's the only planet with chocolate.

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      • medeekM Offline
        medeek
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        ***** BETA RELEASE *****

        Version 0.9.0 - 02.14.2019

        • Created the Medeek Electrical Plugin, utilizing SketchUp's Ruby API.
        • Added tools to create switches, outlets, low voltage outlets, load centers and lights.

        Download the BETA version here:

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        Medeek Design Inc. - Medeek Electrical

        Medeek Design Inc. - Medeek Electrical

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        Just a reminder that this plugin is currently dependent on the Medeek Wall extension to function. Also a new version of the Wall plugin is required in order to retain the electrical components within the wall panels. The upgraded version of the wall plugin will be released later tonight.

        Items needing further attention:

        • Ceiling light fixtures.
        • Parametric ability (edit menus for all fixtures).
        • Combo switch/outlets
        • Estimating
        • Ability to use the plugin with any wall geometry (non-plugin dependent)
        • Link to purchase plugin within Account Manager (currently only a TRIAL version is available)

        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
        Medeek Engineering Inc
        design.medeek.com

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        • medeekM Offline
          medeek
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          Version 0.9.0b - 02.15.2019

          • Added additional Carlon and Raco octagon boxes into the Light Fixture module.

          http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/electrical_su29_800.jpg

          Per customer request I've added some additional electrical boxes.

          The full list of junction boxes available for light fixtures is:

          Junction Boxes: Carlon (B518, B520, B620H), Raco (111, 112, 119, 128, 146, 164, 175, 177)

          The reason I have to add these boxes in is because I need to hard code in the dimensions so that the plugin knows what the width is when the box justification is toggled to left or right. Its not a big deal, it only takes me a couple minutes to add in a new box and its dimensions.

          If you have a particular box or light fixture you would like to see added please let me know

          As far as other international standards (British, France, South Africa etc...), I would be excited to add these in as well but I don't have the time or the energy to model up quality, low poly models of typical boxes, faceplates and electrical components. If you would like to see these added to the plugin I would need to have low poly models provided to me.

          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
          Medeek Engineering Inc
          design.medeek.com

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          • medeekM Offline
            medeek
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            Version 0.9.1 - 02.16.2019

            • Enabled the ability to draw switches with any wall geometry (removed the dependency on the Medeek Wall extension).

            I've been blasted with emails the last couple of days requesting that I make the plugin work with any walls, so I figured I might as well see if I can make this happen.

            This is largely experimentally at this stage since dealing with random (walls) geometry can be a bit tricky.

            I've only enabled this feature with the Draw Switches tool for now. Once I am satisfied with its performance I can easily migrate it to all the other tools.

            The wall must be a group, and its faces must be only one level deep, not nested group within group.

            Please download this latest release and attempt to break it, let me know your findings.

            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
            Medeek Engineering Inc
            design.medeek.com

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            • medeekM Offline
              medeek
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              Tutorial #1 - Extension Overview:

              Footnote: The bug encountered at the 16:00 min. mark has been identified and corrected.

              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
              Medeek Engineering Inc
              design.medeek.com

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              • medeekM Offline
                medeek
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                There is always more that can be done. Just remember though I am juggling four different extensions now, single handed and each one is very deep (and broad). So my time to devote to any one plugin or request is becoming much more selective.

                If you would like to have a feature added I need more details:

                1.) Most common configuration and manufacturer.
                2.) Some indication of how much this feature would be used (does it fit the 90% rule).
                3.) Commercial or Residential application.

                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                Medeek Engineering Inc
                design.medeek.com

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                • medeekM Offline
                  medeek
                  last edited by

                  Version 0.9.1b - 02.19.2019

                  • Enabled the ability to draw outlets with any wall geometry (removed the dependency on the Medeek Wall extension).

                  Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                  Medeek Engineering Inc
                  design.medeek.com

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                  • medeekM Offline
                    medeek
                    last edited by

                    Version 0.9.1c - 02.19.2019

                    • Enabled the ability to draw low voltage outlets, load centers and light fixtures with any wall geometry (removed the dependency on the Medeek Wall extension).

                    The plugin is now fully independent of the Medeek Wall extension and can function as a standalone extension.

                    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                    Medeek Engineering Inc
                    design.medeek.com

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                    • medeekM Offline
                      medeek
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                      Its funny how some of my best thinking is done when I am doing totally unrelated tasks. While I was cleaning out my garage and mini-van on Sunday afternoon I slowly started working out how to handle ceiling mounted light fixtures, almost unconsciously before I was aware that I was working on the problem.

                      After giving this topic a rest for a few days and then revisiting it again this evening it is now clear to me that in order for this to work properly I really need a "Story" or "Levels" module or plugin that actually works across all of the plugins. This Levels module is also needed for the other plugins in the mdkBIM suite, especially in relation to estimating.

                      This becomes critical for the electrical plugin because when you start placing fixtures into a ceiling you need to know where the floor is in relation to that ceiling. Or to be more precise you need to know which floor to assign the light fixtures to so that the 2D symbols are drawn at the appropriate Z height and hopefully are at the same level as the rest of the electrical symbols for that level (ie. wall mounted electrical fixtures), regardless of the ceiling height.

                      If the absolute Z height of the Level is changed then the 2D symbols assigned to it will need to move up or down to make the adjustment. The easiest way to do this is to place all of the 2D symbols (ceiling light fixtures only) in an over arching group that is separated from the separate light fixture groups themselves. When the Level Z height changes you only need to move this main group and not each 2D symbol.

                      The potential downside with this particular system is that if you manually move one of the light fixtures in the X-Y plane or laterally then the 2D symbol does not follow it and is out of sync (out of position). The way around this problem is to possibly setup an observer so that if a ceiling fixture is moved the 2D symbol is simply deleted and redrawn. When a ceiling fixture is deleted a similar situation occurs, however the symbol will always belong to the appropriate main group and have a tag (instance name) that matches the ceiling fixtures so that it can be easily purged from the main group.

                      The draw tool will not only be looking at the group (ceiling group) but also at the face when placing the fixture. The exact point selected on the face will determine the actual placement of the fixture. The height parameter (fixture to floor distance) as it is currently defined has no meaning and will be greyed out however for certain suspended fixtures it can be used at the "suspended height" thereby determining the height above the fixture to place the junction box within the suspended ceiling.

                      There is quite a bit to consider when it comes to ceiling mounted fixtures, I'm sure I haven't considered every possibility yet and there may even be a fatal flaw in some of the organization explained above but at least I wanted to get some of my thoughts down in writing before they evaporated away like a morning mist under the noon-day sun.

                      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                      Medeek Engineering Inc
                      design.medeek.com

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                      • medeekM Offline
                        medeek
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                        I will no longer be posting updates to this thread.

                        If you are interested in new developments or the continuation of this thread please visit:

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                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                        design.medeek.com

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                        • jujuJ Offline
                          juju
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                          dang

                          registered, how long does approval take?

                          Save the Earth, it's the only planet with chocolate.

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                            MtnArch
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                            It took a couple of hours for me .. hopefully Nathan's gotten yours out to you too by now.

                            Highest Regards,

                            Alan T. Hendry, RA
                            Architect

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                            • medeekM Offline
                              medeek
                              last edited by

                              Version 0.9.6 - 03.09.2019

                              • Fixed bugs related to compatibility with SketchUp 2015.

                              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                              Medeek Engineering Inc
                              design.medeek.com

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                                medeek
                                last edited by

                                Update available - 03.19.2019

                                Medeek Design Inc. - Medeek Electrical Plugin Changelog

                                Medeek Design Inc. - Medeek Electrical Plugin Changelog

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                                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                Medeek Engineering Inc
                                design.medeek.com

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                                  medeek
                                  last edited by

                                  Update available - 03.21.2019

                                  Medeek Design Inc. - Medeek Electrical Plugin Changelog

                                  Medeek Design Inc. - Medeek Electrical Plugin Changelog

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                                  Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                  Medeek Engineering Inc
                                  design.medeek.com

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                                  • medeekM Offline
                                    medeek
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                                    Version 1.0.0 - 03.23.2019
                                    - The Medeek Electrical extension moved from BETA status to initial full release.

                                    • Created the HTML edit panel menu and enabled editing for load centers (service panels).
                                    • Created the HTML edit safety device menu and enabled editing for wall and ceiling mounted safety devices (exit signs, smoke detectors, CO detectors, horn/strobes).
                                    • Created the HTML edit light fixture menu and enabled editing for wall and ceiling mounted light fixtures.

                                    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                    Medeek Engineering Inc
                                    design.medeek.com

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                                    • medeekM Offline
                                      medeek
                                      last edited by

                                      Tutorial 2 - Light Fixtures (17:50 min.):

                                      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                      Medeek Engineering Inc
                                      design.medeek.com

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                                      • medeekM Offline
                                        medeek
                                        last edited by

                                        Justin Geis with SketchUp Essentials just posted a review of the plugin:

                                        Overall I think the video is excellent however the demo was of version 0.9.6 so he was not able to demonstrate the parametric ability of the plugin.

                                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                                        design.medeek.com

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                                        • medeekM Offline
                                          medeek
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                                          Version 1.0.1 - 03.28.2019

                                          • Parameter hightlight (input) color added to General tab of global settings.
                                          • Fixed a bug with the safety devices module.

                                          http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/electrical_su38_800.jpg

                                          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                          Medeek Engineering Inc
                                          design.medeek.com

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                                          • medeekM Offline
                                            medeek
                                            last edited by

                                            The light fixture module actually needs to be more like the safety device module where you have a custom library for certain classes of lights and the corresponding symbol.

                                            I need to add in the following light types and symbol:

                                            • Vanity

                                            • Fluorescent (surface, suspended, recessed)

                                            • Ceiling Fan

                                            • Ceiling Fan w/ Light

                                            • Canister (Can Light)

                                            • Surface

                                            • Suspended

                                            I'm also debating whether to add in something for enclosed vents/fans for (bathrooms, laundry rooms, kitchens). Technically this is part of the HVAC or mechanical system but usually gets tucked into the electrical plan, thoughts?

                                            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                            Medeek Engineering Inc
                                            design.medeek.com

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