PC Hardware recommondation
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Do you have a budget?
What are you using it for? Rendering/photoshop/indesign/sketchup/revit/... -
Hi dbalex
My applications :- Skechtup - 80 % of my working time
- AutoCAD / Revit 5%
- Photoshop/Indesign (CS6)5 %
- MS Office 5 %
- Other 5 %
No Gaming
In the future i would like to focus also on rendering (lumion)
My main concern is a stabel System and Speed.
In terms of Budget something between 1700-2000 € seems to be reasonabel.
As far as i know skp is still singelthreaded - which CPU will do best ? -
Yes for your profile you want a CPU with high clock rate and less cores.
Here are some configs with 6 or 8 cores. All very silent systems with passive cooled video card and semipassive PSU.https://geizhals.de/?cat=WL-1064749 (6 cores, 4.6 GHz single core turbo)
https://geizhals.de/?cat=WL-1064353 (6 cores, 4.7 GHz)
https://geizhals.de/?cat=WL-1064352 (8 cores, 4.9 GHz)For Lumion you can change the video card to some bigger nvidia card, depending on your budget. In this case or if you plan to add a bigger card later, you should replace the 500W PSU with something bigger around 700-800W (i prefer Seasonic or be quiet).
I don't know the case, but depending on your needs and how it performs you maybe want to replce the case fans with some low noise fans (Noiseblocker, etc.)
I have included a 500GB SSD. I don't know how you store your data. If you don't have a file server you maybe need to add some additional HDD or bigger SSD. -
If you're going to go the Lumion way, you need to pay close attention to hardware specifications (it's rather hungry).
It is true that SketchUp is still single threaded which would mean favouring higher clock speed to more cores, however more cores could benefit other software you may have.
The choice of GFX card is rather important (depending on the size / complexity of your models). I recommend getting a system with a GTX 1070 at least, with the 20xx RTX out now they're a little cheaper (if you can still get a GTX 1080 TI it is better, but I think the manufacturers are out of stock on the components so no more will be manufactured).
It's a good idea to pair a good GFX card with a good CPU, plenty of RAM and speedy harddrives (for the OS at least). It won't help if you get a good CPU, good GFX card plenty of RAM and tie it to a SATA HDD, writing / reading data will cause the system to go into wait cycles whilst reading / writing data.
I've also purchased Process Lasso Pro and have it run system resources in the background, setting SketchUp specifically to single cores (left the choice of which physical cores of course to the software else it may run too hot on specific cores; I've monitored the core usage and it balances it nicely, tried tying in to specific cores before but then those cores tap out to a 100% for good periods of time, which kinda scared me). Various usage profiles are available, really great piece of software, as simple of complicated as you would like it to be.
In the end it's a rather fine balance that needs to be struck factoring in budget, the software requirements (at various levels) and the end use purpose (and complexity).
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hello and good morning,
I didn't know that there is something like a CPU optimizer - checking lumion Hardware needs makes a lot of sense to.
thanks for your suggestions - you were of great help. -
Juju's advice is sound but I will add on to the HDD. Get a NVMe PCIe based hard drive. It is just about the fastest out there. 1 tb drives can be had for under $200 USD.
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Thanks for your recommendations.
here is another question :I am pondering about if SU supports a hardware setup with two or more parallel working video cards
If yes, witch alternative would be preferable :A working with GTX 1080 TI video card which might be a little more expensive
B two or three less expensive video cards working together on one motherboard.thanks for your comments
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To my knowledge SketchUp in itself doesn't make use of more than one GPU, the more powerful (and more memory) the better but there isn't that much more of an increase past a GTX 1060 (not the 3 / 5 GB versions, please) which seems to be the sweet spot for price vs performance (currently), of course this is dependent on your model size and complexity. If you have other apps (like rendering software) that would use more than 1 GPU it would be beneficial to them though.
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thanks to you all for your advice-
one more thing -
SU 2019 should be out soon. Is there ana chance that SU 2019 is going to be multithreaded ?
This would make quite some difference in terms of choosing the right CPU -
@atelierpaar said:
...SU 2019 should be out soon. Is there ana chance that SU 2019 is going to be multi-threaded ?...
I wouldn't bet on that. To my knowledge, there's no CAD program that uses multi-threading for the normal drawing / work operations. Only when they start rendering - they (might) use more cores.
If you search for 'multi-core' on the official forums you will find more discussions about this. https://forums.sketchup.com/search?q=multi-core
My guess would be; pick any quad core Intel chip from the last two years (with as high Ghz speed as you can afford), add a gtx1080 (or 2080) to that, 32Gb ram and several SSD's (>= 512Mb - PCI NVMe if possible) to store the OS + swapfile + data and you're good to go for the next few years.
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@atelierpaar said:
thanks to you all for your advice-
one more thing -
SU 2019 should be out soon. Is there ana chance that SU 2019 is going to be multithreaded ?I don't think so. From all comments i've seen regarding this subject, they're trying to ignore multithreading as long as they can... maybe until 64-128 cores are mainstream, or 256? Here is a post from a few months ago https://forums.sketchup.com/t/su-layout-multi-core-rfi/63518/20
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