Medeek Wall Plugin
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That is different than the other corner of course in that the gable top plate is lower. This way you can put a rafter on with the typical birdsmouth. The two corners are not interchangeable because they require two different roof framing approaches.
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@pbacot said:
That is different than the other corner of course in that the gable top plate is lower. This way you can put a rafter on with the typical birdsmouth. The two corners are not interchangeable because they require two different roof framing approaches.
Correct, they are not meant to be interchangeable, two different approaches on how to frame up the gable wall. The second option is probably more common but I've seen it done both ways. The user will be able to use either method.
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We’re not out of the woods yet:
The WSW series is field trimmable (to an incline), so we can set that up if this type of pre-manufactured shearwall is selected. I also need to add some extra logic in for the optional king studs and the symbol on top of the wall.
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A WSW Simpson Strong-Wall trimmed to an incline to fit within a gable wall. I've been looking forward to this day ever since I utilized one of these shear wall panels within one of my own residential designs about four years ago.
Note that only the WSW series can be field trimmed like this, at least to my knowledge. I need to do a bit more research into what Simpson recommends for an SSW installation when the top plate is inclined or if this is even possible. I suppose one could always install a trapezoidal block between the SSW and the top plate.
Next I will look at the sheathing, cladding and gypsum and also sort out more of the details with the inset outside corner (termination).
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A CMU gable wall:
The texture/material on the inclined surfaces is representational at best.
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Gable wall with sheathing:
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Beam pocket cutouts for gypsum, sheathing and cladding:
In the situation where the cutout bisects the peak (as shown) the cutout piece is a pentagon not a trapezoid, needed to rework my logic a bit to take care of that situation.
Now I've only got the exterior trim to work on and possibly some more testing with the following items:
- corner configurations/terminations (make sure they all work as expected).
- adjust auto-corner configurations or disable entirely for the gable wall type.
- tee intersections, what are the possible permutations?
- change from polyline to single panel construction for the draw tool, still thinking about this one.
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Gable walls with exterior trim (frieze, band, skirt, corners):
The intersection of the frieze board with the corner trim is still a bit of a question for me especially if the frieze were to cut through the corner trim.
View model here:
3D Warehouse
3D Warehouse is a website of searchable, pre-made 3D models that works seamlessly with SketchUp.
(3dwarehouse.sketchup.com)
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Okay, so I don't have the inset outside corner quite right for the gable wall:
I need to adjust it so that it terminates at the plate height of the intersecting rectangular wall, a minor change.
I am still tossing around the auto-corner configuration routines, not sure yet on the final path I will take, it may just be easier to initially disable this for gable walls and require the user to manually set their wall termination configurations.
I will also update the draw tool to only allow the drawing of a single gable wall panel at a time.
I think everyone will find the gable wall module quite useful, it is certainly a major improvement over the manual workaround I provided in the tutorial videos.
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Version 1.5.4 - 07.08.2020
- Added the gable wall tool with the ability to draw and edit standard gable walls.
Be advised this is a completely new module with modifications to over 36 files (ruby and html). I have tested most of the features with the gable walls however I am quite positive that further testing will pull out a few bugs or limitations which will need to be rectified.
Please feel free to test out the new gable wall module and report any bugs or other issues that may arise.
The following limitations currently exist and are subject to change in the near future:
- The gable wall cannot be used with the wall "move" tool yet. The results might be unpredictable.
- Gable walls are limited to orthogonal corners (90 degrees).
- Auto-corner configuration is turned off for gable walls, the user can edit the wall once it is created and set the start and end termination conditions.
- I will need to add in additional logic for the case of zero wall height (triangular gable walls).
- Currently there is no method from switch a gable wall to a rectangular wall.
- Termination conditions are: Outside Corner, Inset Outside Corner, End, Terminal, Tee Corner.
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Working on tee intersection blocking for gable walls:
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Version 1.5.4b - 07.10.2020
- Fixed a bug with the wall move tool when moving gable walls.
- Added tee intersection blocking for gable walls: 3-stud, 2-stud, 2-stud w/ blocking, ladder blocking.
- Enabled auto-corner configuration for gable walls.
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Version 1.5.4c - 07.10.2020
- Fixed a bug in the gable wall draw menu for metric templates.
*** Critical Bug Fix ***
Download this update in order to utilize gable walls with metric templates.
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Before I move to shed walls I need to get zero height (triangular) gable walls up and running.
Which is the preferred configuration (left or right) of the bottom and top plates?
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Version 1.5.4d - 07.11.2020
- Updated the gable wall module to allow for zero wall height (triangular and trapezoidal walls).
I apologize for all of the micro-updates, however when you develop completely new module there is always a fair bit of residual debugging that accompanies it. I will now turn my attention to shed walls.
I've had votes for both the right and left configuration given above however the left configuration received more votes so that is what I went with.
P.S.
The four sided variant (where one side is zero height and the other is some non-zero value) is more correctly a quadrilateral not a trapezoid. Two side are perpendicular but not parallel, to my knowledge there is no specific name for this type of quadrangle, perhaps the correct term would be a "right quadrilateral". -
So much yet to do, and of course never enough time to get it all done. I've actually been pretty busy the last few months however this Covid thing has quite been stressful for me and with all my kids stuck in the house it has been an interesting last few months. However, we have managed to pull through and surprisingly I've been fairly productive with my programming and I've made some major strides.
It would be really nice to get the hip variant of the gable wall done as well, along with the gable and shed walls. This would allow for in-framing the gable ends of attics trusses, something I have been wanting to make happen for a few years now, ever since I enabled attic trusses within the Truss plugin.
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First look at a left and right shed wall:
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Version 1.5.5 - 07.14.2020
- Enabled the gable wall tool with the ability to draw and edit shed walls.
View model here:
3D Warehouse
3D Warehouse is a website of searchable, pre-made 3D models that works seamlessly with SketchUp.
(3dwarehouse.sketchup.com)
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Updated todo list (as of July 14, 2020):
1.) Making the Window, Door and Garage Door modules work with generic walls, not just Medeek walls.
2.) Shear Wall module which will ultimately integrate with the engineering plugin.
3.) Presets for Garage Doors
4.) Move the Estimating module to the new Medeek Project extension, and further develop this module as it relates to the wall plugin.
5.) Start work on the integrated Medeek Engineering extension, start with window and door headers for vertical loads.
6.) Additional door and window types as requested (eg. bi-fold closet doors, sliding glass doors, pocket doors, double and triple single hung windows).
7.) Spend some time on the new tabs in the global settings, currently showing an Under Construction sign.
8.) Stair module permutations: U, L, T etc…
9.) Further “idiot” proofing of the plugins: (zero value, nil values, checking for impossible geometry, etc…)
10.) Wall Justification
11.) Interior trim added to Medeek Interior extension.
12.) Resume development of the Medeek Floor extension.The list has gotten a lot shorter in the last couple of months. I'm excited to finally have a working shed and gable wall type, there is still a lot more work to be done with many more gable variants, but I will attack those as specific requests are made for each type.
I feel it is time to move back to the complex roof module but before I do I may look at the new number one on this list.
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While I am still fresh with gable walls (and the code for this module) I am contemplating getting the hip variant done as well:
I've already got two votes in favor of it (myself and Larry Belk) however I want to put this out to everyone else and find out if it is of any interest, would you use this gable wall type?
It will probably take me about 3 or 4 days to make it happen or I can move on to other items in the list.
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