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    • M Offline
      Mike Amos
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      The external footprint of this little pad is 24 square feet. Aimed at single occupancy but two could manage for a while, if they get on well.


      View to kitchen and dining area's.


      View to front, kitchen and wet room.

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      • RichardR Offline
        Richard
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        Have you got a plan Mike so we can give feedback?

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          Mike Amos
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          Tomorrow, probably after the GP. What I mean is later today, I cannot get this not sleeping lark right at all........

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          • RichardR Offline
            Richard
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            @mike amos said:

            Tomorrow, probably after the GP. What I mean is later today, I cannot get this not sleeping lark right at all........

            F1? Man we don't get it here other than on Murdoch cable and I'm not gonna give him the cash! I'm left with highlights tomorrow night!

            I DON'T WANT AN UPDATE ON THE WINNER!!!!

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              Mike Amos
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              Not sure there is going to be a winner, F1 seems about as stable as the ISIS top idiots, or parliament, take your pick. I hope they sort it out pdq.

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                Mike Amos
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                Sorry I have been tardy with this, a little under the weather.


                Basic layout.

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                  Mike Amos
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                  Update, lights alteration.


                  Downlights for kitchen worktop.

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                    Mike Amos
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                    Kitchen closeup.


                    Kitchen.

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                    • RichardR Offline
                      Richard
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                      I hope you're up for crit on the layout mate? I've played with just your lower floor.

                      You seem to have a LOT of circulation space that is going to waste, whilst the "use" of areas aren't defined. In this case I've pulled the fridge to a cabinet formed by extending the entry division and introduced a cupboard to face the entry.

                      I've assumed a dwarf wall dividing the kitchen and lounging area so the sofa can back to this. And utilised the space that you had for the lounge as the dining. I didn't really like your idea of mounting the TV as you then expose the rear of it.

                      I haven't played with upstairs, though my thoughts are that it can work as a "for two people" rather than "maybe for two people". Let us see how you might approach that again.

                      BTW the acoustic style ceiling tiles for me have a very corporate feel, maybe you could soften this with plywood.

                      revision_1.jpg

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                        Richard
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                        BTW, in regards the idea of a dropped ceiling feature - I'd probably not use this for each space.

                        On the plan I've provided, consider one in the kitchen, then that same size replicated to the living area, then utilise a pendant light over the dining area. Downlights throughout can be rather unforgiving!

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                          Mike Amos
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                          Thanks Richard, criticism with a point is why I posted here. Not having formal training I accept the learning curve. The reason I had the living area where it was, allowed the television to be under the stairs with a docking station for tunes which allows for the potential of a patio door behind the dining area and access to a garden. This would not be possible without glare when using the television and docking station. potentially.

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                            Richard
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                            @mike amos said:

                            Not having formal training I accept the learning curve.

                            That makes two of us mate! No formal training this end, just a jump in at the deep end can be good grounds for learning!

                            BTW I wouldn't let the function of the TV determine the layout of space. Well yes but not if it overly effects the function.

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                              Mike Amos
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                              I have to think about this a bit, it requires a new outlook on space utilisation and I need to get my brain around it. One of my flaws that I will acknowledge is an attempt to multi use spaces. Probably confuses things somewhat.

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                                Richard
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                                Mate one of the first things I do when designing a tight space is to place standard sized furniture around and ensure it fits comfortably and can be navigated.

                                Every now and then I present plans designed by others for marketing, to demonstrate the layout well I again drop in furniture so the plan is easily read. Its amazing how many times in those cases it seems to have not even been considered by the designer.

                                I think your approach to multi use spaces is the perfect way to go in the case of the space being small!!! However a space of 24' x 24' (8m x 8m) isn't actually that small. Here is Sydney we can legally place a granny flat in 60m2 from that (as just a single floor), we'll normally design for accommodating 2 bedrooms, bathroom with combined laundry, living / dining area and kitchen.

                                Here is a recent design that I utilised a similar kitchen / dining / living similar to that projected in your space.

                                18TWENTY-PLAN-SET_Page_9.jpg

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                                  Gareth
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                                  I agree, 8m x 8m is fairly generous. I have a suite of designs for a low cost housing project which are based on a footprint of 6m x 6m.

                                  The key is to carefully overlap spaces whilst trying to avoid unnecessary circulation conflicts. Generally, think in terms of "Zones" rather than "Rooms"

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                                    Mike Amos
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                                    Not getting myself across vey well there. sorry. The majority of drawings are based around a 15 square foot footprint. Not sure what to do with all the space so I tend to over emphasize the individual units also, I tend to have the dining table and chairs hide in a cupboard for the most part.


                                    15' pad


                                    2

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                                      pbacot
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                                      Do you have examples of built units, and how people are using them? But I'd agree with Richard, given your first plan. There's more room on the left for living space and the right would fit the dining OK.

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                                        Mike Amos
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                                        @pbacot said:

                                        Do you have examples of built units, and how people are using them? But I'd agree with Richard, given your first plan. There's more room on the left for living space and the right would fit the dining OK.

                                        No I do not, simply because I am not an architect, not working in the business and use this as a hobby. Most of these spaces have dual use in -particular the dining area and traditional tables etc are not intended to be used in these spaces. The dining tables are meant to be tucked away out of sight allowing the area to be used as a coffee/lounge area.

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                                          Mike Amos
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                                          Just to explain, I do not mean to be rude or give offence, I am just explaining my status. I'm sorry for any offence.

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                                            Mike Amos
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                                            I have moved the goalpost's a bit to a 20 foot square footprint, I got a little lost with so much space. The render below is just playing with the use of a light sculpture/picture as a method of illumination. I don't like the room lights so will have to alter by trial and error.


                                            Light sculpture test 1

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