Meanwhile in Brussel/Bruxelles/Brüssel
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Yikes!
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Truely sad...!!
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Just need Mr van Dam and y'all are ready for the zombie apocalypse.
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Video games civilisation!
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It's a pretty weird situation: although the general threat level remains at 4 (the highest level), the schools in Brussels will re-open tomorrow, as will the subway. I'm not entirely sure that's currently the best of ideas, although obviously extra security measures will be taken, and you simply cannot put life on hold indefinitely. Meanwhile, the police are frantically looking for the last remaining perpetrator of the Paris attacks (and they seem to believe he's in the company of other terrorists). I dearly hope they don't botch it and kill the tw*t. On another note: I just read ISIS/ISIL/IS are building up their defences in Raqqa, the so-called caliphate's 'capital'. There's well over 300 000 civilians in Raqqa ... I'm afraid there's a human catastrophy on its way, and a severe backlash. Sigh.
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@stinkie said:
I just read ISIS/ISIL/IS are...
Let's refer to them as Daesh...
And I agree... All their propaganda videos shows how wonderful the life is where they are, however, the truth is something quite the opposite, where the citizens are terrorised and food and water something they don't have...
It's difficult for us to understand why anybody want to join their forces...
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Welcome to your New World Order police state...!
(and btw... Congratulations! You've been successfully psy-oped! Fear! Fear! Fear! Fear! Fear! WAR! WAR! WAR!...)
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@numerobis said:
Welcome to your New World Order police state...!
w00t! Blue Monday's one of my all time favs!
Seriously ... not this again. Belgium's not a police state. And it isn't secretely being governed by the Illuminati/the greys/a covert Nazi cult. If you believe otherwise, fine. But unless you put forth undeniable proof, save it for someone who cares. 'Undeniable proof', mind you, isn't quite the same as a YouTube clip of questionable pedigree.
As for our jihadist friends ... According to the papers, they're big fans of fenethylline, an amphetamine-like substance. They don't only gobble the stuff down themselves, but also produce and distribute it. My. Hypocrites. Somehow I don't think it's about religion for many of them. It's about power, and killing.
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@frederik said:
It's difficult for us to understand why anybody want to join their forces...
Maybe because they are backed by someone much more powerful and organized, making them able to trick the EU security system for instance? They have access to oil, they are stealing it, transporting with 1000s of trucks to Turkey, backed by some NATO countries? Now, when Russia is braking the system by actually bombing terrorists and the trucks, the real owners of the trucks are pissed of but can not react in public and protect its own army of terrorists. Instead they are trying to accuse Russia for something, they are still not sure for what?... maybe to down the Russia airplane from the back?
Putin: "Russia noticed of the flow of oil from Syrian territory under the control of terrorists to Turkey, Putin said.
Apparently, IS now not only receives revenue from the smuggling of oil, but also has the protection of a nation’s military, Putin said. This may explain why the terrorist group is so bold in taking acts of terrorism across the world, he added." -
@stinkie said:
Seriously ... not this again. Belgium's not a police state.
What's happening in Belgium and France now is only a taste of things to come. But it's your choice and you are free to look in a different direction as long as you can.
http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/launch-strong-cities-network-strengthen-community-resilience-against-violent-extremism
http://strongcitiesnetwork.org/Sounds nice, right? Only for YOUR safety...
@srx: Russia is also part of the game.
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@numerobis said:
@srx: Russia is also part of the game.
Maybe, but IMHO, for now, they are playing by the rules (International law). I don't know if Russia is under control of higher organism. I think it is still resisting it. We will see...In this media reality show it is so hard to distinguish right from wrong. One have to rely on common sense only.
On the other side NATO has been braking the rules so insolent around the World, generating so much hate, that only a stoned men could believe in their cowboys and Indians kind of story.
As for EU, it is obvious that it's near future is planed for constant emergency state, law level war, and conflict between groups, for higher organism to keep slaves under control. But it is all made possible because of postmodern decadency of human character who is easy to buy now-days because it depends on so many things. Global masses without the national state to protect the social organism, without roots (like emigrants coming to EU attracted by pictures of easy living) are easy to manipulate by bread, games, and fear.
Zamyatin, Orwell, Huxley, were like Jules Verne...many of events they wrote about are happening with unbelievable similarity right now.
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srx, numerobis, start your own thread. Please.
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@stinkie said:
srx, numerobis, start your own thread. Please.
Why? You accept only your point of view in your post? So, it is all about getting a likes? I thought "forum" is about discuss. Maybe I was wrong...
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Because I'm no fan of relentless lecturing. You don't discuss, you grab a soapbox, jump on top of it, and start rambling. That's why.
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hope things return to normal soon.
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@stinkie said:
Meanwhile, the police are frantically looking for the last remaining perpetrator of the Paris attacks (and they seem to believe he's in the company of other terrorists). I dearly hope they don't botch it and kill the tw*t.
Why didn't he blow himself up like some of the others ?.....could it be that ISIS/ISIL/IS/DAESH are looking for him too....!!
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Its just ugly and its bloody sad..... Stay safe to those who are close.
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@rich o brien said:
hope things return to normal soon.
I'm sure they will, threat or no threat. The police et al will remain on high alert, obviously, but our government seems to be well aware day to day life cannot be put on hold for much longer. Cafe and restaurant owners are complaining -and if Belgium indeed has a secret government, it's them.
@gareth said:
Why didn't he blow himself up like some of the others ?.....could it be that ISIS/ISIL/IS/DAESH are looking for him too....!!
Could be. Anyway, I hope the cops catch him, though I think he's small fry, just like the others in his, er, 'unit'. Cannon fodder, enlisted to advance a political rather than a religious agenda. (There seems to be a certain dichotomy to Daesh: trigger happy zealots/criminals at the bottom, former Baath officials with a Sunni nationalist agenda at the top. A volatile cocktail, apparently.)
All in all, I think the whole Daesh thing won't be over soon. Bringing the Daesh army to its knees shouldn't be too hard, I think, but that won't be enough, obviously. There's a lot of investing and rebuilding to be done, both in Syria and Iraq. And then there's Saudi Arabia, Iran, and last but not least, Turkey -their role in this situation is problematic.
I worry -not about the situation over here, attacks or no attacks, life goes on, no, I worry about the Middle East and North Africa. A further descent into violence and obscurantism would be absolutely disastrous.
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It is truly sad that yet another bunch of crazies are hijacking Islam in a bid to recreate a truly holy war. If it war it is NOT holy in any way. I have met and worked with a lot of Muslims and they are just as decent as anyone else on the planet but I saw not long ago a BHUDIST monk talking up killing Muslims because of their faith so now hope we have got to the bottom of the decent into madness so we can start clawing our way out of it.
police with guns on our streets is just a reaction to a threat and not a police state and will only be the case while the threat is so high but I do agree we need to look into security again. As long as we do not go all Apocalypse Now all over the place we should be OK. -
I have a constructive suggestion for this problem to be resolve. So cold "religion" of those terrorists should be proclaimed sect which is the real term for this artificial creation made in social engineering laboratory, for people who are cut off they roots. And also, it would be best if real Islamic believers and religion officials could do it, working with nation. That would forbid its practice and spreading among the young seeking something to lean on. They should be given different kind of hope instead, but that's the problem of it's own...
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