Condoc Tools: Thoughts? Opinions?
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I'm not saying this is interesting or not. I'm just saying this might be as good as what me Krisidious you or others might be willing to share and could be discussed as collective knowledge. Maybe it would be a forum where Condocs would shine above everything else, I don't know, but the specifics of architecture, make it a top modeling discipline inside sketchup capabilities and one that sketchup is being developed to specialize in. Layout and 2014 Classifier, besides all splash screens have architectural models... many people here are architects...
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Close to 50% of the membership is architecture.
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I have to say I agree with the sentiments expressed here.
- I too use a similar system to what you all have described. I have one model and one layout file inside of a template project folder. I only need to change a few file names to have my new model already connected to layout with sections and elevations and floor plan levels.
- It is very vague as to what you get.
- I hate subscriptions too... I understand the money making part. I'm a capitalist. But charge one price for your product and charge me again for improvements or new features.
I also wanted to add that TIG made a script for me that creates interior elevations with architectural detail tags.
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Doesn't seem like you can download from there. Maybe we should ask Tig if ever published it.
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I'd love it as a place to discuss theory and get mentor type help from the older architects.
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I, for instance, when trying to help others here, fall into the mistake of thinking as an architect sketchup modeler. This frame of mind also alters the perspective I have over the software and how I look at plugins and search for stuff in the forums.
It's like a kind of a filter I put in everything and that has guided me and my workflow with sketchup in the past 2/3 years I've been using it daily. I've developed this by patiently look at the forums, while working and trying to solve my problems with the info gathered here randomly. There's so much info here but it takes dedication just to grasp a part of it.
Having an architectural subforum would help newcomers focus, would help helpers help. Would contextualize things. If you enter on Architecture Subforum to question something, you wouldn't have to explain your background, that would be cleared out and everybody would know that your question and everyone's answer is trying to go towards similar objectives.
How wouldn't that be useful if half the post subject would be already implied?
There is also a matter of Students and Trolls. I don't really know what you mean by the later, but students would be most welcome...
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I'm Anti-Troll and Pro-Gargoyle when it comes to Architecture.
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Oh OK. Give it a try. I think it will be better here, if about how to use the software. I'm just thinking of other forums I thought would be such great discussions, but were dominated by cranks wanting to tell you what to think and students wanting someone to think for them. Seemed the word "Architecture" was the attractant.
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The Architecture industry does seem to draw the know-it-alls...
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It does, in fact all the world is an architectural savant, specially clients! It seems to me I'm the only one having doubts on my projects!
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I am getting ready to jump into the SU architectural process. Over the years, I have tried Revit, ACad architecture 2010, Archicad and Softplan. All do great 3d houses. It gets very complicated when you try to make construction documents from that. I usually end up importing to 2d cad to finish.
So what interests me about condocs is that, he has already thought through that process and set it up. One less thing that I have to figure out when I make the switch to SU. I have to be able to be productive almost immediately. So if anyone is 'using' the software and has a review, that would be useful to know.
I also have to wade through information looking only for the architectural applications. I dont care about 3d monsters and I dont like videos about how to draw a house in SU by people that dont know about building a house.
I also do not like subscriptions, which is why I cant and wont go back to ACAD.
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The relevance of this may have passed but....
I have been using ConDoc Tools since January - the approach and model organisation concept work great for me, very logical and helps me keep track of things really well. When the software works it works well, when it doesn't it is a right royal pain in the **s. The is pretty much zero support. There is a dedicated 'professional' forum - http://www.suexch.com but pretty much nothing ever gets replied to and unless someone starts being publicly negative and kicking up a stink nothing happens. I tend to find Layout pretty flaky anyway (on a mac) so that does not help.
In a nutshell - nice try but no cigar!
I really really wanted the plugin to work - it seemed like a panacea at the time but its just pretty random so the approach and org time payoff are negated by the amount of tim you have to troubleshoot a black box.
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Thanks for the feedback! Rather than directly commenting on past V1 posts, I want to reinvigorate the conversation by providing an extended trial license for CONDOC Pro V2. Please know that you will only get value out of the CONDOC Tools if you have SketchUp Pro 2014/2015, watch our tutorials, and stick to the model organization system. Don't worry, in the download package there are some sample projects to play with.
Watch required tutorials http://www.condoctools.com/support
Download everything you need for your SketchUp version at the following links...
SU2014, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9255258/ConDoc%20v.2%20-%20SketchUp%202014.zip
SU2015, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9255258/ConDoc%20v.2%20-%20SketchUp%202015.zipThe trial license expires September 1, 2015. After that, you can still access a free trial of ConDoc V2 perspective tool at wwww.condoctools.com. 81bd27bdc146994a9a1aad2095868fc4
I am specifically interested in your feedback on the value of the tools, template, layering system, workflow, and SketchUp standards that CONDOC provides. Let me know what you guys think!
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@mbrightman said:
Thanks for the feedback! Rather than directly commenting on past V1 posts, I want to reinvigorate the conversation by providing an extended trial license for CONDOC Pro V2. Please know that you will only get value out of the CONDOC Tools if you have SketchUp Pro 2014/2015, watch our tutorials, and stick to the model organization system. Don't worry, in the download package there are some sample projects to play with.
Watch required tutorials http://www.condoctools.com/support
Download everything you need for your SketchUp version at the following links...
SU2014, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9255258/ConDoc%20v.2%20-%20SketchUp%202014.zip
SU2015, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9255258/ConDoc%20v.2%20-%20SketchUp%202015.zipThe trial license expires September 1, 2015. After that, you can still access a free trial of ConDoc V2 perspective tool at wwww.condoctools.com. 81bd27bdc146994a9a1aad2095868fc4
I am specifically interested in your feedback on the value of the tools, template, layering system, workflow, and SketchUp standards that CONDOC provides. Let me know what you guys think!
Hello Mike -
I have been using your workflow for more than a year and am now using SU for all my residential construction documents.While Condoc's looks interesting, I have some concerns about being able to fully control the aesthetic quality of my CD's using Condoc's. Of course the time savings would be great (manually stacking the view ports gets old), but I fear in using Condoc's all the time savings would be undone by having to go back and redo hatch patterns and line weights to my specific needs.
How would I address this concern using Condocs?
Thanks,
Barbara
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