Sign for Peace in Palestine UPDATE!
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I'm gonna ignore the post above this one for the sake of my sanity.
The reason for this post: Mike - if you have access to BBC iplayer there was a really fascinating interview on BBC Radio 4's Today Programme around 8am this morning. It discussed how the lessons learnt in the NI peace process could be applied to the Gaza situation. It was a surprisingly positive piece, and suggested that, although difficult, a solution wasn't impossible. A lot of it tied-in with what you've suggested - have a listen if you're able
cheers,
A
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@rv1974 said:
Israel is surrounded by this type of animals (...)".
I mean this in the nicest way possible: inform yourself. Read a book. You might pick something up. Like who, say, Theodor Herzl was, or Folke Bernadotte.
Neturei Karta aren't anti-semites. They're anti-zionists. They're's a difference, and it isn't a subtle one either. And yes, they're against Israel. Stating, however, they'd like to see the country 'wiped out' is somewhat hyperbolic, to say the least.
Oh yes, before I forget: you're dangerously close to being outright racist. Not cool.
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Tom, from my side I'd nicely recommend you not to distort my position. The term 'animals' was directed to the guys in the video I provided.
Of course Neturei Karta aren't anti Semitic (mea culpa). They just anti Zionists- exactly like their kissing partners Ahmadinejad and Mashal.
And.. It's really funny to see your warnings about getting close to 'not cool racist'
Seriously, only 200km! from Gaza ~250000 (sic!) people were killed in Syrian massacre sponsored by Saudi\Bahraini sheikhs; nice guys of ISIS (the same sponsors) slaughter humans in industrial manner RIGHT now. The same dirty oil money feed Hamas and corrupted European politicians.
So let me ask you: How many petitions calling to ban Arabian oil nouveau riches have you signed lately?
Have you signed any petition about 4000 rockets launched from Gaza? -
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it undoubtedlyproves your unbiased and consistent impartiality in this topic .
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Ah, of course. Have you signed for peace in Palestine? No? You must be in favour of war and bloodshed then. See what I did there?
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**Bolivia declares Israel a 'terrorist state'**I
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/07/30/bolivia-israel-terrorist-state/13384989/ -
@mike lucey said:
**Bolivia declares Israel a 'terrorist state'**I
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/07/30/bolivia-israel-terrorist-state/13384989/"Other South American countries, including Brazil, Chile, Ecuador and Peru, have recalled their ambassadors from Israel in protest over the fighting in Gaza."
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7-1 is disproportionate" responds Israel's Ministry of External Relations, after Brazil's accuse of Israel's "disproportionate use of force" in Gaza".
http://thedailybanter.com/2014/07/israel-tries-win-hearts-minds-insulting-brazils-world-cup-team/ -
@unknownuser said:
Ah, of course. Have you signed for peace in Palestine? No? You must be in favour of war and bloodshed then. See what I did there?
How signing the 'petition' calling to hurt the defendingside will help to bring peace to the Middle East? IDF should not stop till the whole carcinoma (Hamas infrastructure) will get cut.
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@rv1974 said:
7-1 is disproportionate" responds Israel's Ministry of External Relations, after Brazil's accuse of Israel's "disproportionate use of force" in Gaza".
http://thedailybanter.com/2014/07/israel-tries-win-hearts-minds-insulting-brazils-world-cup-team/Ah, Palmor has the art of making enemies and alienating a nation down to a tee.
He could have used a proportional response but the 7-1 Germany routing of Brazil might just be an overkill as those wounds have not healed.
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@rv1974 said:
IDF should not stop till the whole carcinoma (Hamas infrastructure) will get cut.
You seem to be under the assumption Hamas is the cause of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. They're not, just like the PLO wasn't. Both Hamas and the PLO are symptoms. Anyways. I'm out.
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Guys, I've posted an UPDATE to my original post.
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If this guy Yigal Palmor (Israel Ministry of Foreign Affairs) is the best diplomat Israel can produce they are going to dig a very deep hole.
It looks to me that the anti-Semitic shield that Israel has been using for years is slowly crumbling. Governments are finally speaking up and echoing its citizens disgust of the Israeli treatment of Palestinian children.However, I have no doubt that the bloodshed will continue while the USA is backing Israel and many feel that the Zionist lobby is going to keep pressure on Washington to stay the course. A sorta, he who pays the piper thing!
All that other counties can do is to boycott Israeli products and services until their Government enters into meaningful peace talks under the UN. I wont hold my breath. But I will hope
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It isn't only non Jews that are expressing their disgust at the Israeli Government's actions. Henry Siegman, a former leader of American Jewish Congress has strongly condemned Israel’s war on the Gaza Strip, saying “the Zionist dream is based on slaughter of innocents.”
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/07/31/373510/us-rabbi-israel-slaughtering-innocents/ -
Times of Israel Op-Ed Advocates Palestine Genocide FULL TEXT
A frequent contributor to the Times of Israel laid out the case for the complete obliteration of not just Hamas, but of everyone -- civilians, children, innocents -- who lives in the Gaza strip. The column was removed, but we have the full text here...
Mediaite (www.mediaite.com)
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Yikes! Good thing they removed that.
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@solo said:
:shock:
Times of Israel Op-Ed Advocates Palestine Genocide FULL TEXT
A frequent contributor to the Times of Israel laid out the case for the complete obliteration of not just Hamas, but of everyone -- civilians, children, innocents -- who lives in the Gaza strip. The column was removed, but we have the full text here...
Mediaite (www.mediaite.com)
Whoa: Times of Israel Op-Ed Advocates Genocide Against Gazans !
It might not be far from the true thinking of many!
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@Mike Lucey: I'll show you the Real 'going to a very deep hole':
and the same personality was 'appalled' by US which did not provided 'Iron Domes' to protect the Gazans from rocket attacks.
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/1.608237
N.B. some curious fact: 10 percent of Hamas rockets misfired, landed in Gaza Strip
http://www.worldtribune.com/2014/07/30/israel-says-10-percent-hamas-rockets-misfire-fall-gaza-strip/ -
I just read the UN Watch article that image refers to. It's filth. And dishonest to a degree that makes me cringe unvoluntarely. What sort of douche writes such drivel?
I also read the Haaretz piece. A quote: "Pillay said that she was appalled at Washington consistently voting against resolutions on Israel in the Human Rights Council, General Assembly and Security Council. "They have not only provided the heavy weaponry which is now being used by Israel in Gaza but they've also provided almost $1 billion in providing the 'Iron Domes' to protect the Israels from rocket attacks," she said. "But no such protection has been provided to Gazans against the shelling.""
Ah, nuance. Anyway: you seem to think me biased, but er, impartiality doesn't seem your forte either.
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