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    • KrisidiousK Offline
      Krisidious
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      My only comment Garry, is Kick Ass!

      By: Kristoff Rand
      Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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        Garry K
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        I call the top of the stringer that continues under the floor the heel. There is now an option for "has heel". I've also added in tread bullnose.

        I've added building code information into the defaults.txt file. Minimum Rise, Maximum Rise, Minimum Run, Maximum Run, Minimum Stair Width etc. The defaults are currently set to Canadian National Building code but can be modified for your own area.

        The stair maker plugin uses these values to adjust things like number of Risers so that the stair will still meet code.

        I've also added in more 0 value settings. If one of the following 3 values is set to 0 then it will be calculated. So you only need 2 of these: 1) degrees, radius, Run at walk line.

        I've also added in a setting in the defaults.txt file to finish off housed stringer(s) at a certain height above the floor. I set it to 12.7mm in the picture.

        You can run the Stair Maker a second time set as if you are creating a handrail (0 riser and tread thickness, housed inside stringer and no outside stringer ). Adjust the radius by the thickness of your stairs inside stringer. Adjust the thickness of the inside stringer (handrail) to the width of the stair minus the thickness of both stair stringers. This creates a square tube that can be edited and pulled straight downwards ( on blue axis ) to form a finished stair bottom.


        Stair Input Box


        Stair heel


        Finished bottom

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        • KrisidiousK Offline
          Krisidious
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          "I've added building code information into the defaults.txt file. Minimum Rise, Maximum Rise, Minimum Run, Maximum Run, Minimum Stair Width etc. The defaults are currently set to Canadian National Building code but can be modified for your own area. "

          awesome.

          By: Kristoff Rand
          Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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            calwilliams63
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            Wow.... impressive!!! I'm still trying to learn how to build a cabinet efficiently. Lol!!

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              Garry K
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              Calvin,

              Did you by any chance go to my web site? CabMaker32.com.

              I am a big advocate on the 32 mmm construction system. You can build very good looking cabinets using these guidelines.

              I can also give you many reasons why you will become very efficient. This system is scaleable. So if you are a one man operation or a much larger company you would have to make some tooling choices.

              Anyway - if you are interested - we can continue this. We can also take it off line if you wish.

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                Garry K
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                I have one type of flare working. I call this the continuous flare where every tread is flared by the same amount. Set Flare treads equal to the number of treads on the stair and Set the Flare amount to what you are interested in.


                Continuous Flare

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                  Krisidious
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                  that looks great.

                  By: Kristoff Rand
                  Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                    Garry K
                    last edited by

                    I've been busy working on handrail and deciding how to handle it.

                    I'm thinking of having a drop down list for handrail styles. So just pick one.

                    Additionally - I'm thinking to add a new handrail profile to the list - you provide the model with a handrail profile and set the top center of the handrail at the origin and select it before running the stair builder plugin. The plugin would then ask you to give a name for the new handrail profile ( you could cancel at that time ). If you provide a name then I would save the profile to disk using the name as part of the file name. Next startup I will read in the file names and add it to the list.


                    Curved stair with handrails

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                      Garry K
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                      Here's a better closeup of the handrail. You can see that I have started with a reasonably complex one to make sure that it works.


                      close up of handrail

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                      • KrisidiousK Offline
                        Krisidious
                        last edited by

                        Sounds perfect.

                        By: Kristoff Rand
                        Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                          Garry K
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                          I have now finished the bullnosing of the treads. This needed to be automated so that the routing of the housed stringer would be correct.

                          I am deciding which features will be offered in a free version of the Stair Builder. I will then continue adding more features to a pro version which will have a cost associated with it.

                          I am currently considering having a free version for basic curved stairs. The features that will be left out of the free version and included in the pro version are:

                          1. profiled handrails
                          2. adjusting tread nosing, thickness and amount dadoed into stringer, no bullnosing
                          3. adjusting riser thickness and amount dadoed into tread
                          4. stringer thickness
                          5. flared treads - progressive and continuous
                          6. No dadoing of treads and risers into stringer.

                          Please provide feedback on what I am considering.

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                            Garry K
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                            I want to say that if there isn't any interest in a free version of the stair builder (meaning no comments) then I will concentrate just on the pro version.

                            I've built the treads this way - using an outline for the top and bottom faces and taking a copy of the tread profile and scaling, rotating and moving into place. The tread data then fills in a polygon mesh - and we have a tread.

                            I had been using Fredo6 round over - but this strategy will allow me to add different tread profiles - I will not be limited to just round over.


                            Tread before filling in


                            Tread after filling in

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                              Krisidious
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                              I'm interested in the free version... But, I'll most likely being going with the paid plugin.

                              By: Kristoff Rand
                              Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                                Garry K
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                                I have added a selection of handrails. You can also add your own handrails. Simply create a handrail profile for level rail. Profile must be on the x and z plane - y is ignored.

                                select the handrail and choose the Add Handrail icon. You will be prompted for a handrail name ( it will over write a handrail if the name already exists ).

                                These are the ones that I have added and given names to.


                                Handrail Selection

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                                • KrisidiousK Offline
                                  Krisidious
                                  last edited by

                                  The line quality looks good... can we see the geometry of the rails?

                                  By: Kristoff Rand
                                  Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                                    Garry K
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                                    I'm not sure what you are asking.

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                                      Krisidious
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                                      Same view of rails but turn on hidden geometry in the view drop down menu before you take the picture. I'd like to see the poly weight. Like you did in the tread pics.

                                      By: Kristoff Rand
                                      Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                                        Garry K
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                                        No problem,

                                        I should have mentioned that the configuration file has an item called segments set it to what ever you want (within reason)

                                        Here is a picture of a flared tread with the new setting which produces a chamfer
                                        segments=0

                                        The reason is that a chamfer is within building code as is a tread with a bullnose

                                        I also have these settings
                                        inside_stringer_section=3
                                        outside_stringer_section=4

                                        This allows you to change how many segments of handrail and stringer there are for each tread. One for inside and one for outside curved rail / stringer.

                                        Since you can make a handrail any way you want. The arc can have as many or as few segments as you wish.


                                        Tread with chamfer


                                        Handrail with geometry

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                                        • KrisidiousK Offline
                                          Krisidious
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                                          that's great... I like being able to adjust the polys in plugin made geometry.

                                          By: Kristoff Rand
                                          Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                                            jabbers
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                                            Hi Garry,
                                            I had to join when i came across this. I think this is a very well taught out plugin ,and i will certainly buy it.
                                            two questions,
                                            1.... will it be for solid modeling only ,or have you plans to output vector drawings for each part (say dxf/dwg format and nested). I manufacture staircases on a cnc router and this would be a big help if that could be done.
                                            2.....what kind of timescale do you think it will be finished and ready for purchase?..

                                            I wish i had your cumputer programming skills and i am amazed what you have achieved.
                                            Regards jabbers

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