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    • S Niedostępny
      stoferr
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      Alright a small update, I have been out of town for a week, so the project was on hold. However I managed to do some work on the engine the last few evenings.

      The Tiger II was using the Maybach HL230 engine, a 1200 kg, 690 horsepower beast. The dimensions of the engine are 1000 x 1190 x 1310 mm.

      The model aint finished yet, I could spend years on getting all the the details, but as it will be hidden far inside the hull, i need to stop somewhere. Right now it counts well over 70.000 faces.

      Engine 1.jpg
      Engine 2.jpg
      Engine 3.jpg

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      • hellnbakH Niedostępny
        hellnbak
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        Very nice work on the engine 👍 Certainly looks detailed enuf to me, especially since it's going to be buried deep within the tank.

        One question - What's with these two areas of the flywheel? I'm assuming those are starter motors, right?


        2.jpg

        "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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        • S Niedostępny
          stoferr
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          Thank you Hellnbak. About those two areas then yes, you are right, those are starter motors as far as I know. The lower one i electric, the upper is handdriven, manufactured bu Bosch 😉

          I still need to do some work on the back of the engine, but im afraid I wont get much time for it, for the ret of the week, but we'll see.

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          • hellnbakH Niedostępny
            hellnbak
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            Thanks, but my question is why are they protruding thru the flywheel? Shouldn't they be on the edge of the flywheel?

            "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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            • S Niedostępny
              stoferr
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              Well they should be placed correctly, but infact you just pointed out one of the places that isnt entirely done yet,in fact most of what seems to be the flywheel on my pictures, is the frame surroinding it.

              You can see a good picture here, also notice all the details that I still need to have made 😉

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              • hellnbakH Niedostępny
                hellnbak
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                Ah, I see now. Except for the center portion, it's all a protective shroud covering the flywheel. Wow, I've learned something today (and I'm sure it will come in handy somewhere down the road 😆 )

                Again, very nice work

                "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                • S Niedostępny
                  stoferr
                  ostatnio edytowany przez

                  Yeah, its nice to learn something 😄 If you feel for it, check out that guys gallery, he got over a 1000 pics of him building a fantastic model King Tiger. I dont think I have ever seen a model kit assembled and finished as nice and beautifully as those he does. Amaizing.

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                  • S Niedostępny
                    stoferr
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                    Alright new update, this time its the transmission; Maybach OLVAR EG 40 12 16 B.

                    The transmission is placed in the front of the tank, right between the driver (left side) and the radio operator (right side).
                    Olvar 01.jpg
                    Olvar 04.jpg

                    The drive shaft from the engine will be connected to this universal joint.
                    Olvar 02.jpg

                    The drivers steering wheel.
                    Olvar 03.jpg

                    Feedback please!

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                    • S Niedostępny
                      stoferr
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                      So, this thread has been standing still for quite some time now, however the project itself haven't. This is quite a major update, I have modelled many new things, and startet to fit them into the hull.

                      First of all, the oil tank. This simple piece is rather large and will be fitted behind the transmission:
                      Oil Tank.jpg

                      The drivers seat (needs a bit more detailing), I bet this was a mechanical and comfortably wonder back in its time:
                      Drivers Seat.jpg

                      The turret Power Take Off (PTO) This unit is placed directly under the turret, it link the drive shaft from the Engine, with the drive shaft from the transmission:
                      Turret PTO 2.jpg
                      Turret PTO.jpg

                      The ammunition racks are placed just above the tracks. Inside the hull obviously. Note that they have been angeled to make room for the turret:
                      Ammo Rack.jpg

                      Alright for the hull itself and its assembly:

                      Hull floors, the upper one marks where the turret will be placed:
                      Hull Floor.jpg

                      Other minor additions are the Radio operators escape hatch, the left right side brakes and the internal spur wheel:
                      Drivers escape hatch.jpg

                      Fitting the drivers seat:
                      Driver Seat fitting.jpg

                      Fitting in the transmission and oil tank:
                      Hull fitting 1.jpg

                      Minor additions; Batteries, open toolbox and fitting the Turret PTO:
                      Battery Turret PTO fitting.jpg

                      Fitting in the ammunition racks:
                      Ammo Rack fitting.jpg

                      The engine will be fitted when it is entirely done, including the exhaust pipes.
                      Untill then, here's a picture of all the things fitted, without the hull itself:
                      All things fitted.jpg

                      Please, feedback!

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                      • cheddaC Niedostępny
                        chedda
                        ostatnio edytowany przez

                        Awesome work......

                        Kraken Wrangler https://www.flickr.com/photos/132441293@N03/

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                        • L Niedostępny
                          liam887
                          ostatnio edytowany przez

                          You must have good blueprints!

                          VISIT MY ONLINE GALLERY
                          http://www.robotsvdinosaurs.com/

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                          • T Niedostępny
                            tomislavm
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                            You are crazy, this is the best i have seen!

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                            • orgelfO Niedostępny
                              orgelf
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                              patience+talent= reaaaalllyyy good work !! 👍 👍

                              http://www.orgelf.com

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                              • R Niedostępny
                                realvisual
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                                Looks ace!

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                                • Mike AmosM Niedostępny
                                  Mike Amos
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                                  Marvelous and I do marvel at the detail and patience.

                                  Absentia mortis praesentiam vitae probat, vita autem est argumentum constantiae.

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                                  • S Niedostępny
                                    stoferr
                                    ostatnio edytowany przez

                                    Alright another update. Something about the model has been bothering me alot. I modelled the hull in one single piece, meaning that it couldn't be disassemblied, and thus didn't represent the real deal. So today I decided to redo it, I knew it would be a rather difficult decision, but that it would take me 10 hours to correct, was a surprise. It propably has something to do with the fact that I had to remodel most of it, add new details and reassemble, while still keeping the mm perfect precision and compatibility with the other components that I had before. Anyways, I got it done and now im more than satisfied with the new result.

                                    One of the main reasons for redoing the hull was to show the great interleaved welds. This is one of the examples of germans over-engineering their weapons, but it proved to be very effective.
                                    1.jpg

                                    As said the new hull allows me to disassembly the plates, this will make it easier for me to showcase the enterior in my renderings, once the model is finished.
                                    2.jpg

                                    This is one of my favorite parts of the entire tank, those engineers really nailed it.
                                    3.jpg

                                    Here is the bottom hull plate. You see the supports for the hull, and torsion suspension. Alright, I admit that the interleaved welds on this plate aint accurate (there was only used normal welds) but I quite like this, see it as my personal mark on this model.
                                    4.jpg

                                    A side view of the tank and welds. Ofcourse the floor plate welds are made so that they make sense compared to the rest of the tank.
                                    7.jpg

                                    The upper front plate, notice the sheer volume of the thing, where other natoins made square amour plates, the germans made overly complicated ones.
                                    5.jpg

                                    The tank with the front plate removed, revealing much of the interior.
                                    6.jpg

                                    And thank you for the nice comments everyone, they are really motivating me to keep going, even when things dont play out as expected.

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                                    • Bryan KB Niedostępny
                                      Bryan K
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                                      You are a crazy man! 😄

                                      Incredible work. Just incredible.

                                      See my portfolio at https://delphiscousin.blogspot.com/

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                                      • S Niedostępny
                                        stoferr
                                        ostatnio edytowany przez

                                        Another update.

                                        I'm starting to get a bit bored of just modelling pure geometri, so I've started to texturize and render the model. First of all, I've tweaked Podium into giving me some decent results, actually this render engine is more powerfull than I first thought, as long as you want to edit the preset files in a text editor.

                                        I modelled the firewall which separates the fighting compartment from the engine compartment.
                                        Tiger II Hull 2012-04-26 22044800000.jpg

                                        Also I've done a few renders of the fighting compartment, which is probably around 80% finished by now, in terms of pure geometri. The texture work still needs ALOT of attention tho.

                                        From above:
                                        Tiger II Hull 2012-04-27 19522700000.jpg

                                        From the side:
                                        Tiger II Hull 720.jpg

                                        Very large (3840 x 2160) version here:
                                        http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o88/stoferr/TigerIIHull.jpg

                                        I have a question regarding textures that I hope someone can answer. Is there a way to place something like sprites on an already textured surface? My images seem a little too clean, so I would like to add some textures on those already placed there. Can this be done in Sketchup?

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                                        • numbthumbN Niedostępny
                                          numbthumb
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                                          In SketchUp, you can try this: http://www.sketchupartists.org/tutorials/sketchup-and-photoshop/use-image-editing-software-inside-sketchup/

                                          Comfortably numb...

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                                          • L Niedostępny
                                            liam887
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                                            Looks great, have been watching this since you started and cant wait to see it done!
                                            I am going to try and take a similar approach with my avatar model http://media.cmcdn.net/12429650/940x515.jpeg one day!

                                            Is this just a personal project or are you selling the model, if you sold it you could probably get a tidy sum for your work although the market for this is limited I guess!

                                            VISIT MY ONLINE GALLERY
                                            http://www.robotsvdinosaurs.com/

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                                            Cześć! Wygląda na to, że jesteś zainteresowany tą rozmową, ale nie masz jeszcze konta.

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