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    • StinkieS 離線
      Stinkie
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      Thanks, guys.

      Michalis -de gustibus. Still, good idea. 💚

      @solo said:

      I was instantly reminded of my days with Podium 1 and remember this being the best way to get soft shadows and good even lighting, however I wondered if this was the fastest way (I cannot remember) did or does LEM's come at a speed cost?

      They did use to slow down rendering a lot, yes. But not anymore: nowadays the speed hit, if any, is negligible.

      @solo said:

      Does Podium 2 have HDRI support?

      No. However, you can use the SU sky to light your scene -hence you can choose colors on the fly. Turn off SU shadows, and you've got nice soft lighting. Not quite the same thing, admittedly, but it's easy, and as you know that's what Podium is about.

      @solo said:

      I'm assuming the LEM behind the camera is to assist and give some light volume as without it all surfaces facing camera would be black, however I am wondering if there was a way of using ISO, shutter speed and f-number settings to enhance lighting without the need for the LEM?

      No. No such settings. I would've added the fill light using any other renderer, though.

      @solo said:

      What my rambling is about is the setup of scene may actually be just as if not more important than the actual render settings.

      The setup is important, obviously. Lighing can make or kill a render. The render preset I used did contribute to the quality of the image, though. More photons, better AA and more blur samples than the stock presets. I also rendered big (5000 x 2694) and then downsampled in Photoshop to further improve the AA. Which, given Podium's speed (36 mins for the 5000 x 2694 image), is a totally viable approach.

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      • soloS 離線
        solo
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        Your last point is interesting and one I have heard and even used from time to time, render large and reduce in post editing.

        Have you tested what the time would be to render correct size with higher settings (better AA, etc) in comparison? Just wondering if there is a speed advantage or a quality advantage doing it larger.

        http://www.solos-art.com

        If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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        • StinkieS 離線
          Stinkie
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          @solo said:

          Have you tested what the time would be to render correct size with higher settings (better AA, etc) in comparison? Just wondering if there is a speed advantage or a quality advantage doing it larger.

          No, I haven't. AA settings are contained within Podium's render presets. I find it more convenient to render large and downsample than to open up the preset I'm using, edit it etc. Also, altering AA settings, test rendering, altering AA settings again ... can be quite time consuming, and it's a process I'm not always in the mood for.

          The next version of Podium will give more control over AA via the UI, I believe. Per material AA, or something.

          @unknownuser said:

          (...) Patrick Nagel 🤢 (...)

          I had to look that one up. Ew. 😲

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          • bigstickB 離線
            bigstick
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            @kais said:

            nice rendering but 53 mins. is too much
            now in Lumion 2 you can do it less than 53 sec

            Yeah, but the quality won't be the slightest bit comparable. I can make an omelette in around 60 seconds, but I wouldn't like to eat it!

            I've seen what Lumion does, I've seen what all the render engines can do. They all have their benefits and drawbacks. Lumion's main benefit is speed, its main drawback is quality. Yes, I'm pretty sure you'll disagree but you'll be wrong - certainly as far as Podium is concerned. 😄

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            • david_hD 離線
              david_h
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              @unknownuser said:

              @unknownuser said:

              (...) Patrick Nagel 🤢 (...)

              I had to look that one up. Ew. 😲

              Yeah .. .Pretty disgusting. that would turn your very elegant modernist expression into a cheesy bachelor pad. The only thing missing would be the hot tub and the gold medallions 💚

              If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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              • soloS 離線
                solo
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                Patrick Nagel is 30 years too late, it may have worked in the 80's with your Chinese themed black and white shellacked room but today it's just cheesy.

                Remember these 80's gems? 🤢

                http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpqicoDSup1qcygcoo1_500.jpg

                Looks like his rubbish

                http://www.solos-art.com

                If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                • StinkieS 離線
                  Stinkie
                  最後由 編輯

                  @unknownuser said:

                  The only thing missing would be the hot tub and the gold medallions 💚

                  💚 👍

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                  • C 離線
                    congellous
                    最後由 編輯

                    The set up explanation was interesting and the light around the corner is the clever bit, so is there a key light behind the camera that sounds like a good idea anyway.
                    What is the QMC setting I know it's results take ages and it looks better but is there anymore tips on this, Thanks

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                    • soloS 離線
                      solo
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                      Tom,

                      I did not want to post here as this is a Podium thread, however I posted here: http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=81&t=43169&p=386208#p386208

                      Rendered the scene with Thea bsd, then knocked out the wall and threw in some glass bricks.

                      http://www.solos-art.com

                      If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                      • 2 離線
                        2kemon
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                        Do the resulting renders from a white LEM, just outside the door, and a white sketchup background differ?

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                        • StinkieS 離線
                          Stinkie
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                          Hm, I should do a comparison to find out.

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                          • StinkieS 離線
                            Stinkie
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                            Thea version (TR1). Nothing too special.


                            thkeuken_c.jpg

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                            • StinkieS 離線
                              Stinkie
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                              Rebuilt an Evermotion scene and rendered it with Podium. Needs plates and stuff.


                              keuken_1.jpg


                              keuken_2.jpg

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                              • 2 離線
                                2kemon
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                                ...you're on to something here! Very cool indeed.
                                Did you compare the results with LEM's outside openings VS. just a white SU background?

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                                • StinkieS 離線
                                  Stinkie
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                                  Hm, no. Wouldn't be too different, I believe, from the second image, which is lit by Podium's physical sky. The main difference would be that you have less control over your lighting.

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                                  • marked001M 離線
                                    marked001
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                                    you're really pushing podium to the next level here, stinkie..

                                    http://www.revision21vis.com

                                    instagram: revi21on

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                                    • StinkieS 離線
                                      Stinkie
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                                      Thanks, Jason. There really isn't that much to it, though.

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                                      • StinkieS 離線
                                        Stinkie
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                                        Mo'.


                                        boffi_2012-03-09_13132300000.jpg


                                        38min.jpg

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