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    • Alan FraserA Offline
      Alan Fraser
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      Perhaps the most interesting part of that article about the LHC (as far as this thread is concerned) is that even if, by next Spring, the scientists have conclusively found no sign of the Higgs boson,they will be equally jumping for joy...because they will have almost conclusively proven that one of the major pillars of modern physics will have been found to be faulty...leading to a flurry of new research.

      This is exactly the opposite of what creationists would have people believe...that orthodox science gangs up against them, because their 'theories' don't fit the standard model. They don't fit because they're fairy stories, not because they represent any viable challenge.
      Scientists like nothing better than to kick over the apple cart...but they need the evidence...and creationists don't have any. Or at least they don't have any unless they intend redefining the word 'evidence' now, like they have 'speciation'. If they do that, then we might as well save all that money spent on the 'real science' of forensics, DNA profiling etc. We can just declare people guilty because a little voice in your head tells you they are...or you feel with every fibre of your being that they are...or even that it's just 'obvious' that they are.

      3D Figures
      Were you required to walk 500 miles? Were you advised to walk 500 more?
      You could be entitled to compensation. Call the Pro Claimers now!

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      • utilerU Offline
        utiler
        last edited by

        Sigh...... 😒

        purpose/expression/purpose/....

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        • J Offline
          JuanV.Soler
          last edited by

          the beauty of the Night
          but is not only beauty
          it is strength
          is everywhere. * created it. And it seems it last before and after us. What is the point to define it ? It can only be to find the way to eternity.

          (but eternity holds it all, that is why scientists keep worried all the time) 😄

          ,))),

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          • J Offline
            JuanV.Soler
            last edited by

            I think it is clear as water solo
            what is it that you don´t get to be sure ?

            ,))),

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            • J Offline
              JuanV.Soler
              last edited by

              but it is not to believe if eternity exists or not
              it is a fact for the universe 😉

              ,))),

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              • D Offline
                david.
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                These verses seem apropos to this thread. Draw your own conclusions.

                Romans 1:22 - Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, ...

                Mark 13:13 - And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

                Mark 13:30-37
                30 Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done.

                31 Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.

                32 But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.

                33 Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time is.

                34 For the Son of Man is as a man taking a far journey, who left his house, and gave authority to his servants, and to every man his work, and commanded the porter to watch.

                35 Watch ye therefore: for ye know not when the master of the house cometh, at even, or at midnight, or at the cockcrowing, or in the morning:

                36 Lest coming suddenly he find you sleeping.

                37 And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch.

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                • michaliszissiouM Offline
                  michaliszissiou
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                  Why this animated gif, that 'simon le bon' posted in another thread, why does it remind me what we're all trying to say here?
                  http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/iSimon/BoiteStop.gif
                  Great animation IMO. Thank you simon.

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                  • R Offline
                    Roger
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                    @michaliszissiou said:

                    Why this animated gif, that 'simon le bon' posted in another thread, why does it remind me what we're all trying to say here?
                    http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/iSimon/BoiteStop.gif
                    Great animation IMO. Thank you simon.

                    Simon's gif reminds me of a project we did in design school that required we demonstrate the use of levers. I designed this little blue panel that his a series of lever. The last lever was exposed and labeled pull in this direct. When the instructor came to critique my project, he pulled the lever and another lever moved forward with a banker's pin pointed at the handle of the first lever.

                    I don't remember my grade.

                    http://www.azcreative.com

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                    • AdamBA Offline
                      AdamB
                      last edited by

                      Always liked this one:
                      Creation_du_monde.jpeg

                      Developer of LightUp Click for website

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                      • utilerU Offline
                        utiler
                        last edited by

                        So have we found the answer yet....?

                        purpose/expression/purpose/....

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                        • GaieusG Offline
                          Gaieus
                          last edited by

                          @utiler said:

                          So have we found the answer yet....?

                          I have...

                          Gai...

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                          • boofredlayB Offline
                            boofredlay
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                            @utiler said:

                            So have we found the answer yet....?

                            42

                            http://www.coroflot.com/boofredlay

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                            • J Offline
                              JuanV.Soler
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                              @solo said:

                              @juanv.soler said:

                              but it is not to believe if eternity exists or not
                              it is a fact for the universe 😉

                              The universe will last for eternity? I'm struggling to understand you Juan.

                              I am sorry for the delay solo. I have had my laptop broken for a few days.

                              What I try to say is that the universe exists by itself
                              and we do not, we get in here for a time and we go.
                              In that sense the universe seems eternal for us.
                              And what I think about why we hardly try to find its creator its because I think we would like to last at least the same time that the universe.

                              But in any case, so far, so good. We are alive now and that is what matters.
                              Cheers

                              ,))),

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                              • mitcorbM Offline
                                mitcorb
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                                @Boofredlay:
                                Not having had the opportunity to read "Hitchhikers Guide to the Universe", I did not grasp that subtlety. I just dismissed it as possibly Verse 42 of the preceding biblical citations, and did not have a chance to look any further.

                                I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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                                • boofredlayB Offline
                                  boofredlay
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                                  [flash=853,505:1l9djrev]http://www.youtube.com/v/aboZctrHfK8&fs=1[/flash:1l9djrev]

                                  http://www.coroflot.com/boofredlay

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                                    pilou
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                                    http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn;ANd9GcSUQm1ou-Cqg9X1vyN-TSMPKImo_exnNSVqxDPhKb794yL0UliK5ZHMuozfqA
                                    😉

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                                    Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                    My Little site :)

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                                    • michaliszissiouM Offline
                                      michaliszissiou
                                      last edited by

                                      "How many roads must a man walk down?"

                                      @unknownuser said:

                                      Not having had the opportunity to read "Hitchhikers Guide to the Universe"

                                      It's never too late. 😉

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                                      • C Offline
                                        cornel
                                        last edited by

                                        The Word of God is clear. See for example Job 12:7-10 (in the Bible)!

                                        (New International Version):
                                        “But ask the animals, and they will teach you, or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you; or speak to the earth, and it will teach you, or let the fish in the sea inform you. Which of all these does not know that the hand of the LORD has done this? In his hand is the life of every creature and the breath of all mankind.”

                                        (Amplified Bible):
                                        “For ask now the animals, and they will teach you [that God does not deal with His creatures according to their character]; ask the birds of the air, and they will tell you; Or speak to the earth [with its other forms of life], and it will teach you; and the fish of the sea will declare [this truth] to you. Who [is so blind as] not to recognize in all these [that good and evil are promiscuously scattered throughout nature and human life] that it is God's hand which does it [and God's way]? In His hand is the life of every living thing and the breath of all mankind.”

                                        Draw your own conclusion!

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                                        • C Offline
                                          cornel
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                                          The Bible was written by men, but they were inspired by the Holy Spirit, and some parts are even directly dictated by divinity...!

                                          Jesus told His contemporaries: “Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away” , and He was right…: Any prophecy of Scripture that was already fulfilled, it turned like, to the smallest details! God, does not lie!

                                          “All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.” (2 Timothy 3:16-17)

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                                          • charly2008C Offline
                                            charly2008
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                                            Check out this video from 1992. What has changed in the meantime?

                                            He who makes no mistakes, makes nothing

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