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    • thomthomT Offline
      thomthom
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      The thing is, a normal WebDialog instance will be GC'd if you clear all references to it.

      But there is something I have done in my subclass that prevents this - and I'm not finding out why.. 😞

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      • Dan RathbunD Offline
        Dan Rathbun
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        @thomthom said:

        The thing is, a normal WebDialog instance will be GC'd if you clear all references to it.

        Sure.. as I remember Adam's post .. I thot he showed they were not GC'd.. but is was awhile back.

        It could be nothing more exotic than that Google did not account for us subclassing UI::WebDialog, similar to the way some API methods only accept exact classes and not any subclasses.

        I'm not here much anymore.

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        • Dan RathbunD Offline
          Dan Rathbun
          last edited by

          Did you dispose of all Locals, Constants, instance vars, and perhaps maybe even Procs that are within your subclass?

          I'm not here much anymore.

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          • thomthomT Offline
            thomthom
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            Maybe... I was planning on trying a simple subclass - without all the stuff I have in mine. Just to see if that makes the differences.

            You could test the GC of a WebDialog if you like - so we can compare results.

            I did a count of the existing WebDialogs, then created a new one. Made a new count ( +2 in my results ) then I set my references to the WD to nil and invoke GC.start. The count then went down by 2. Confirm?

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            • thomthomT Offline
              thomthom
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              @dan rathbun said:

              Did you dispose of all Locals, Constants, instance vars, and perhaps maybe even Procs that are within your subclass?

              I set all local variables to nil, nothing to the constants - just strings.

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              • Dan RathbunD Offline
                Dan Rathbun
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                @thomthom said:

                You could test the GC of a WebDialog if you like - so we can compare results. ... Confirm?

                OK, here:

                dlg = UI;;WebDialog.new
                >> #<UI;;WebDialog;0x61dc79c>
                ObjectSpace.each_object(UI;;WebDialog) {}
                >> 2
                dlg=nil
                >> nil
                ObjectSpace.each_object(UI;;WebDialog) {}
                >> 2
                GC.start
                >> nil
                ObjectSpace.each_object(UI;;WebDialog) {}
                >> 0
                MyDialog = Class.new(UI;;WebDialog)
                >> MyDialog
                MyDialog.superclass
                >> UI;;WebDialog
                
                
                dlg=MyDialog.new
                >> #<MyDialog;0x6071ed4>
                ObjectSpace.each_object(UI;;WebDialog) {}
                >> 2
                ObjectSpace.each_object(MyDialog) {}
                >> 2
                dlg=nil
                >> nil
                ObjectSpace.each_object(MyDialog) {}
                >> 2
                ObjectSpace.each_object(UI;;WebDialog) {}
                >> 2
                GC.start
                >> nil
                ObjectSpace.each_object(MyDialog) {}
                >> 0
                ObjectSpace.each_object(UI;;WebDialog) {}
                >> 0
                
                

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                • Dan RathbunD Offline
                  Dan Rathbun
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                  But I did not show() the dialog in the previous test, so:

                  dlg=MyDialog.new('Test')
                  >> #<MyDialog;0x61d2f30>
                  dlg.show
                  >> true
                  # empty dialog with title 'Test' is displayed,
                  # .. and I close it manually.
                  ObjectSpace.each_object(UI;;WebDialog) {}
                  >> 2
                  ObjectSpace.each_object(MyDialog) {}
                  >> 2
                  dlg=nil
                  >> nil
                  ObjectSpace.each_object(MyDialog) {}
                  >> 2
                  ObjectSpace.each_object(UI;;WebDialog) {}
                  >> 2
                  GC.start
                  >> nil
                  ObjectSpace.each_object(UI;;WebDialog) {}
                  >> 0
                  ObjectSpace.each_object(MyDialog) {}
                  >> 0
                  

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                  • Dan RathbunD Offline
                    Dan Rathbun
                    last edited by

                    Are you testing on PC (v1.8.6-p287) or Mac (v1.8.5-p0) ??

                    I guess I should say that I'm running:
                    RUBY_VERSION 1.8.7 RUBY_PATCHLEVEL 299

                    .. get I set it for a test and forgot to set it back.

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                    • Dan RathbunD Offline
                      Dan Rathbun
                      last edited by

                      @ThomThom...

                      look at this example:
                      https://gist.github.com/355820

                      A the bottom he determines that there is a finalizer that is holding a ref to the instance, and therefor the reason why the instance is not getting GC'd.

                      I know you were trying to use a finalizer to cleanup a temp file.. likely that's the culprit.

                      I'm not here much anymore.

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                      • thomthomT Offline
                        thomthom
                        last edited by

                        @dan rathbun said:

                        @ThomThom...

                        look at this example:
                        https://gist.github.com/355820

                        A the bottom he determines that there is a finalizer that is holding a ref to the instance, and therefor the reason why the instance is not getting GC'd.

                        I know you were trying to use a finalizer to cleanup a temp file.. likely that's the culprit.

                        Not in this case. I'm testing on SU8, default Ruby. I've used finalizer, but it only triggers under OSX. And I've read the gotchas about finalizers not GC'ing - and implemented it so it doesn't hold a reference.

                        However, I think I'm somehow creating a reference somewhere... I just can't track it down...

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                        • thomthomT Offline
                          thomthom
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                          It seems to be due to using self.add_action_callback within the initialize method of the subclass.

                          <span class="syntaxdefault">class WC </span><span class="syntaxkeyword"><</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> UI</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">;;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">WebDialog</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">;</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> def initialize</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">(*</span><span class="syntaxdefault">args</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">);</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> super</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">;</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> self</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">add_action_callback</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">(</span><span class="syntaxstring">'test'</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">)</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">{</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">|</span><span class="syntaxdefault">diag</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">,</span><span class="syntaxdefault">param</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">|</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> puts diag</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">,</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> param </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">};</span><span class="syntaxdefault">end</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">end</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">;<br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault">nil<br /><br />ObjectSpace</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">each_object</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">(</span><span class="syntaxdefault">WC</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">){}<br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault">0<br /><br />x</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=</span><span class="syntaxdefault">WC</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">new </span><span class="syntaxstring">'test'<br /></span><span class="syntaxcomment">#<WC;0x18dc1000><br /><br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault">ObjectSpace</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">each_object</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">(</span><span class="syntaxdefault">WC</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">){}<br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault">2<br /><br />x</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=</span><span class="syntaxdefault">nil<br />nil<br /><br />GC</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">start<br />nil<br /><br />ObjectSpace</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">each_object</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">(</span><span class="syntaxdefault">WC</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">){}<br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault">2<br /></span>
                          

                          When I use add_action_callback outside initialize it does get GC'd.

                          <span class="syntaxdefault">ObjectSpace</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">each_object</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">(</span><span class="syntaxdefault">UI</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">;;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">WebDialog</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">){}<br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault">2<br /><br />wd</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=</span><span class="syntaxdefault">UI</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">;;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">WebDialog</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">new </span><span class="syntaxstring">'test'<br /></span><span class="syntaxcomment">#<UI;;WebDialog;0x18f1a2a8><br /><br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault">ObjectSpace</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">each_object</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">(</span><span class="syntaxdefault">UI</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">;;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">WebDialog</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">){}<br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault">4<br /><br />wd</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">add_action_callback</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">(</span><span class="syntaxstring">'test'</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">)</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">{</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">|</span><span class="syntaxdefault">diag</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">,</span><span class="syntaxdefault">param</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">|</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> puts diag</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">,</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> param </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">}<br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault">true<br /><br />wd </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> nil<br />nil<br /><br />GC</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">start<br />nil<br /><br />ObjectSpace</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">each_object</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">(</span><span class="syntaxdefault">UI</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">;;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">WebDialog</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">){}<br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault">2<br /></span>
                          

                          I don't understand why...

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                          • Dan RathbunD Offline
                            Dan Rathbun
                            last edited by

                            @thomthom said:

                            It seems to be due to using self.add_action_callback within the initialize method of the subclass.

                            I don't understand why...

                            Oh.. that's an easy one: Because **self** IS a reference to THE instance.
                            So YOUR telling Ruby to keep 'literal' reference within the code.

                            You dont need that reference by the way.. because the initialize method ALWAYS gets executed WITHIN the newly created instance, just after the class constructor (usually new,) creates it.

                            So just remove the " self." from in front of ALL instance method calls made from within ANY of the object's instance methods.

                            I'm not here much anymore.

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                            • Chris FullmerC Offline
                              Chris Fullmer
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                              Interesting, 👍

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                              • thomthomT Offline
                                thomthom
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                                I had a suspicion that might be it, and it's what I had planned to try next. But I still don't understand why. As self.add_action_callback is just calling a method, never is self being stored in any reference... ❓

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                                • thomthomT Offline
                                  thomthom
                                  last edited by

                                  Removing self. from add_action_callback made no difference.

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                                  • thomthomT Offline
                                    thomthom
                                    last edited by

                                    I finally nailed it. I created the procs for add_action_callback as class constants instead of creating blocks within the initialize method and that allowed the WebDialog to be GC'd.

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                                    • Dan RathbunD Offline
                                      Dan Rathbun
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                                      @unknownuser said:

                                      (http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f) of this topic":25oe0j3o]

                                      Did you dispose of all Locals, Constants, instance vars, and perhaps maybe even Procs that are within your subclass?

                                      That said... you should be able to have proc refs, if they are instance @refs because they are likely to have refs inside them that ref instance objects.

                                      If the class is a singleton (most WebDialogs are,) just limit the number of instances to 1, in the wrapping namespace, the same way you would for a tool instance.

                                      I'm not here much anymore.

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