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    [Plugin] MoleculeImporter (1.3.3) – updated 8.10.2017

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    • Chris FullmerC Offline
      Chris Fullmer
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      I have not. That would probably be a reasonably easy way to make it work.

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        DanYHKim
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        Is there any possibility of a protein structural renderer that would calculate sheets and helices, kind of like RasMol does?

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          Aerilius
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          I don't believe that this would be feasible (or in the scope of this plugin). Since proteins start with 100+ amino acids, they have several thousand atoms which means a model would have at least a million polygons - a number where SketchUp's performance isn't really fun anymore.

          A dedicated molecule visualizer or molecule drawing program is probably better for most chemical/biological applications. This plugin may be useful for importing simple molecules and enhancing them with boxes or SketchUp components.

          Here is a list of open source protein visualizers that I found:
          PyMOL
          Garlic Protein Visualizer
          (RasMol)
          Avogadro
          I hope that helps.

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            Aerilius
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            Most programs don't use "physical" units like 1 Ångström = 100 Picometer (10[sup:321hkzmd]-10[/sup:321hkzmd]m), but document-relative units like in a word processor. Formats like the z-matrizes use Ångström which the plugin scales up to 1 meter. So it depends on the source program.

            So it's likely that NanoPutian man can eat Bryce:

            http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/download?mid=831a70669032236d8d1fe8cdc415f4c5&rtyp=lt&ctyp=other&ts=1311802607000

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              Andri
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              Hi, I have put the folder and file in the plugin folder but I cant see that it is workning. Is this not ok for ver 8.0? Can help and advice me?
              Andri

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                Aerilius
                last edited by

                @unknownuser said:

                but I cant see that it is workning

                Hi, can you tell me what is "not" working? Do you not see a menu item in the Plugins menu (and in File → Import), or do you see it, but when you import a specific file, it seems not to create a model?
                The plugin supports SketchUp 8.0 (which is 2 years old, and didn't add/remove anything that easily breaks plugins). It could be that the plugin cannot yet handle every file of the .mol format, in that case, maybe you can send me the file (or a similar file).

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                • pbacotP Offline
                  pbacot
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                  I am always amazed by the breadth of interests in this forum and uses of SU. I have a biology degree but I hadn't thought of such a scientific tie-in for SU or that people on this forum would be knowledgeable about these things. Well I guess I should not be amazed but just get used to it.

                  Thanks for the importer!

                  MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                    Andri
                    last edited by

                    @aerilius said:

                    @unknownuser said:

                    but I cant see that it is workning

                    Hi, can you tell me what is "not" working? Do you not see a menu item in the Plugins menu (and in File → Import), or do you see it, but when you import a specific file, it seems not to create a model?
                    The plugin supports SketchUp 8.0 (which is 2 years old, and didn't add/remove anything that easily breaks plugins). It could be that the plugin cannot yet handle every file of the .mol format, in that case, maybe you can send me the file (or a similar file).

                    Hi and thanks for your replay. I can not see the plugin in the menu (file - import) and when I open the possible types of import I can not see *.mol.

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                      Aerilius
                      last edited by

                      Then I assume the plugin is not loaded. Since you didn't mention a popup with "load errors" at the start of SketchUp, we should maybe check that it is installed correctly:

                      On the OS X operating system that is in: (the system path, not user path)
                      %(#000000)[MacIntosh HD/Library/Application Support/Google SketchUp 8/SketchUp/plugins/]
                      If Windows is installed on your computer, it is in: (depending on language and drive letter)
                      %(#000000)[C:\Program Files\Google\Google SketchUp 8\Plugins\]

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                        Aerilius
                        last edited by

                        Small update (1.1.0):

                        • converted it into a SketchUp Extension (that you can turn on/off)
                        • added icon and translations
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                          Oxer
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                          Thanks!!
                          I have created the spanish language file:
                          Spanish Language

                          "The result is the end what is important is the process" by Oxer
                          [http://www.oxervision.blogspot.com/(http://www.oxervision.blogspot.com/)]

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                            Aerilius
                            last edited by

                            A new version 1.1.1 has been uploaded. Some regular expressions failed on OS X and have been fixed.

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                              matthew.robert
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                              @danyhkim said:

                              Is there any possibility of a protein structural renderer that would calculate sheets and helices, kind of like RasMol does?

                              Aerilius, I am probably asking the same thing as DanYHKim, but is it possible to model the pink and yellow things in the attached graphic? I downloaded the .pdb file from rcsb.org, and then exported the file to MOL v3000. That worked fine to model the molecular structure... which I am guessing is by design, but I am trying to find a way to simply model the other stuff.
                              pinknyellow.png

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                                Aerilius
                                last edited by

                                The surface representation is probably much more complicated. SketchUp has only faces and edges as primitives and is thus not really appropriate for chemical/biological visualizations (that are more focussed on atom positions, angles and electon density). This plugin just places components of spheres (which is easy) but I have no idea how the surface representation is stored in pdb and how to generate smooth SketchUp geometry from it.

                                It is probably easier to let a molecule/protein modeler do the surface generation and then export it to faces/edges to do SketchUp stuff with it. I've seen for example pymol can export to vrml (SketchUp Pro) and obj (free SketchUp importer plugin).
                                http://www.pymolwiki.org/index.php/Surface

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                                  Andri
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                                  @andri said:

                                  @aerilius said:

                                  @unknownuser said:

                                  but I cant see that it is workning

                                  Hi, can you tell me what is "not" working? Do you not see a menu item in the Plugins menu (and in File → Import), or do you see it, but when you import a specific file, it seems not to create a model?
                                  The plugin supports SketchUp 8.0 (which is 2 years old, and didn't add/remove anything that easily breaks plugins). It could be that the plugin cannot yet handle every file of the .mol format, in that case, maybe you can send me the file (or a similar file).

                                  Hi and thanks for your replay. I can not see the plugin in the menu (file - import) and when I open the possible types of import I can not see *.mol.

                                  Hi again, I have been away. but now I realy need this going. I have know been able to set the plugin up corectly. I´m using ACD/chemsketch to build models and I export them as *.mol. But when I try to import them I can select the file and when i click ok nothing happens. just a blank screen.
                                  Could I send you the file for try?? but I´m not allowed to put in *.mol file hear.

                                  I realy need to solve this 😄

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                                    Aerilius
                                    last edited by

                                    You can send the file if you put it in a zip file.

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                                      jeichholz
                                      last edited by

                                      Hi Aerilius,

                                      Like Andri (perhaps) I cannot get the plugin to import an mol file-- nothing happens in the Sketchup window. This is for Sketchup 2013. Any solution since that last post?

                                      Thanks John E.

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                                        ericschimel
                                        last edited by

                                        I am seeing the same thing right now on SketchUp 2013 and 2014. I've tried to import several different MOL files.

                                        Is there possibly a bug here?

                                        I am trying to 3D print some molecules and would love to be able to use this...

                                        -Eric
                                        http://plugin.sketchthis.net
                                        Sketchup Kitchen Design Plugin
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                                          Aerilius
                                          last edited by

                                          The importer has been closely designed around the Symyx specification (2010) for Molfile V2000 and V3000 formats. It maybe possible that there is a bug, but I don't have any file that failed so far (would be good if someone who wants this solved can send me such a file). It may also be possible that the file deviates slightly from the specification, or that it is a different version or file format with .mol ending.

                                          From what software / source are these .mol files?

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                                            ericschimel
                                            last edited by

                                            I tried a bunch from ACD/ChemSketch and they all failed no matter what format I saved them in...

                                            -Eric
                                            http://plugin.sketchthis.net
                                            Sketchup Kitchen Design Plugin
                                            Custom Models

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