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I''m following your posts with interest Juan.
I think we (Western World) will be seeing many changes in how we govern ourselves over the next few years. Electing political parties to do the job is just not working. This system is now totally outdated in the Information Age we live in. People's wishes are ONLY taken into account prior to Election Day and after that they are put to one side.
After a government gets into power they quickly put their platform policies on the shelf. Not even political party 'grass root' member's voices are taken into account. The politicians simply fall into the grasp and control of the 'World Financiers' and its this group that govern! This can be clearly seen from what has happened in Iceland, Greece, Ireland and soon Portugal, Spain, Italy. Others will follow quickly.
I am not able to particularly identify the real Power Brokers but groups like Bilderberg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilderberg_Group comes to mind. I imagine there are others. There is even a concerted effort to control the Net. I hope this never happens! Although I imagine, because of the way the Net has been set up that they will not be able to fully control it. If they do, we are all screwed!
Mike
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Thanks**Mike**for your interest.
Yes indeed we are all going to be screwed. Money is money.
AH ¡ THE LAW ¡
They lend.
Then apply the interest.
Then Governments can not pay back.
Then they take the countries.
¡ SO SIMPLE ¡ and ¡ SO DIFFICULT TO CHANGE ¡
First we gather and think about it.
Second we organise ourselves, and
Third we take action. That is the plan.
No other way in the movement.
And we will win just because of the fact that it was Man and Women who invented the Money and not the Money who invented the Women and the Man.
So it is all about taking conscience of that fact and realize that we were first and that we can do it better.
And when I say we I mean the people.
Governments and Politicians are too busy into trying to pay back,
not wondering about anything else.
They must believe that Money is the Law.
But we do not
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@unknownuser said:
They lend.
Then apply the interest.
Then Governments can not pay back.
Then they take the countries.I have to add to the beginning
They start the crisis (war?)
They make people poor.This is very informative movie on this subject, about how they did it to my country - Yugoslavia. And I can tell you that from what I know it's very much truth.
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I would like to cheer up a little bit this thread by inserting a video but i can not for i forgot how to do it and the SCF TUBE does not work for me any more. So i will just put the link to watch.
it is only in spanish, sorry for non understanders. It is about the good news to spread about the forces of the coming 2.012 event. No te lo pierdas
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Popular March towards BRUSELAS****%(#000080)[has started a few days ago.
Still in Spain. I had to get you informed .]
%(#004080)[the words are :
go slowly ´cause go far]****,._))
nice isintit ?
people is taking the power in europe too. %This movement is unstoppable. I wonder how is going to end. Calm and education. The truth is on our side. -
Very nice Juan! Great words "go slowly ´cause go far ,._))". There is a saying in my country, something like:" Quiet water crush the mountain" I am too wondering what will happen? Something must.
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srx, ,._),
I found this map
On 17th of September arrival to PARIS.
On 8th of October arrival to BRUXELLES
facebook = http://es-es.facebook.com/pages/15M-Marcha-Bruselas/115074155256399
twitter : https://twitter.com/#!/marchabruselas
blog : http://roadtobrussels.blogspot.com/p/presentacion.html
March to Brussels proposal.doc.pdf
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wt3fJJJyUGg
up up up up up La FRANCE OH ¡ LA FRANCE
Anonymous À Paris Le 5 Novembre 2011 - YouTube -
Moody's sees "positive" that Spain limit the deficit in the Constitution
Spanish politicians are going to make a change in the Constitution next 2 September, limiting the deficit.
Awesome and outrageous.
The 15 M movement has being claiming for a change of the Constitution regarding the electoral way.
no chance
And now because of the Markets Owners of Europe these people obey and change the Constitution in two days.
Yesterday we gathered in Puerta del Sol
They are going to hear from us. Their true attitude regarding the people has been clearly exposed for all to see. We can not accept it. March to Bruxelles is reaching Besancon. -
From what I see in the world, the cards are wide open. It is global. They are hiding no more what they are doing...Like Germany 1939. Ordinary people see what's happening , but can do nothing. It is too late I'm afraid.
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waiting
About the point of information, symbolic in the Square Puerta del Sol, : thinking about trying to hire a place to put the table the chair the luggage with the main documents like signatures of people supporting various actions pencils pens notebooks etc. Police do not accept to keep it in the Square and they have to take it each night to a fellow´s appartment who shares a little space for them. But he plans to move as i´ve been told.
Movement do not accept money but goods. We are on it now.
About the movement in general :wide openso they have their cards wide open and we the people here are wide open as well all over the country saying no to what they are planning to do in so many differents paths. Constitutional, Educational, Health, Jobs, ...even if they are right in cutting the superfluous spending that we have had. (Right wing is going to win the elections now) We need a more radical solution affecting our Country and Others as well. A new thought of ruling . and this is what we are after for. and this is what it is about. takes time.
apparently things are not like in Germany 1939 now we all know at the precise time together what is going on, something different has a possibility to occur.
I like to think, same as you do, that this time we the people will decide the facts and not them.
Be confidentsrx
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I'm just thinking loud to here other opinions. I've never saw such media manipulation and blockade on a global scale as thees days. So it's nice to here from people directly...like "Juan news on Spain revolution"...internet is very helpful in keeping the light on. It's different from 1939.
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Charlie Chaplin final speech in The Great Dictator - YouTube
is even more relevant today.[flash=480,385:36ggbcyi]http://www.youtube.com/v/QcvjoWOwnn4[/flash:36ggbcyi]
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http://vimeo.com/30081785
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyziG5bUuBE&feature=related
http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolutionIn my view, today, Spain´s movement rests and watchs.
**América**starts and spreads. 8th of October, tomorrow, arrives the march to Bruxelles. And in the 15th, the demonstrations are to be shown everywhere. We must learn now how to use this power since it is soon going to be evident that no one is in control of the established power in fact. Who will takes us to war if we declares us non-violent ?
Cheers
AméricaI found this assertion, quite an statement :
%(#0040FF)[We are not here to Survive The Future.
We are here to Create The Future!]
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@unknownuser said:
We must learn now how to use this power since it is soon going to be evident that no one is in control of the established power in fact.
"no ONE" should stay that way. This is what is to be afraid of. How to control the whole World? Maybe its better not make it global...We all love each other, but not necessary under one roof...it seems dangerous..."Brave New World"
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@unknownuser said:
Charlie Chaplin final speech in The Great Dictator - YouTube
is even more relevant today.[flash=480,385:1qaaeyz9]http://www.youtube.com/v/QcvjoWOwnn4[/flash:1qaaeyz9]
I never saw this before. I find it fascinating.
I am driven back to a quote from Walt Kelly the creator of the cartoon strip Pogo, the man who put the words "I have met the enemy and he is us" into Pogo's mouth. Kelly wrote, I distrust the extreme left, the extreme right, and . . . . the extreme center."
My take on it is to distrust any train of thought that you can attach "ism" to. As in communism, socialism, capitalism, liberalism, conservatism, catholicism, protestantism, ad infinitum. Like architecture, you need to balance your constraints against your opportunities.
There is no "right way," there is only the way that works best with what you have.
As Jesus said, "Blessed are the cheese makers" and "The Greek shall inherit the earth."
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Follow me people. "Sangria no sangre."
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srx, I am not sure I am getting what you want to mean in your post. Do you mean I am pushing for a How to control the whole World? If it is so, that is not my intent.
Please clarify to me, thanks.@unknownuser said:
There is no "right way," there is only the way that works best with what you have.
I would agree with you if instead saying with what you have, you said, with what you are.
in any case, that only way should then be the right way , no ? ,._)@roger said:
"Sangria no sangre." SI ,._)))
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The problems you run into when thinking about these issues:
People who do not vote and then complain.
People who do not actively participate in politics and then complain.
People who vote without the capability to analyze or the energy to research and vote anyway.What the cartoonist/philospher Walt Kelly was talking about is that we the people make the decision in our choice of politicians or in our own decision not to participate in orderly politics. That is what he was referring to when he said, "I have met the enemy and he is us." He was saying look in the mirror for the source of the problem. Too many of us don't vote or are not willing to stand for office ourselves if we don't like the choices. It is us that is the problem, not "them."
My son-in-law's religion is free-market capitalism. He argues that the market is similar to the laws of physics or the law of nature. I argue that the universe is a oneness and it is an artificial construct to separate the laws of social interaction from the laws of economics. They both have to be put into a blender until the resulting juice is homogenous and inseparable. Of course, this means neither side of an issue will be happy or at least not for long. The trick of leading is to balance economic imperative with social justice. Hard work as no one will be entirely happy with the result.
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Hi Juan,
What I mean is that there is no way to centralize the whole world control in a right way. We can use technology for this but not without a group of people controlling it directly, which is the way to NWO. The only way this could be transparent is to give people local control, with direct democracy in smaller communities. This way you know who are you voting for, and it is not for organisation, it is concrete person with concrete biography. Only my personal thoughts.
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I agree with you then,
srx
thanks for clarifying.
Today I feel it is not Spain´s revolution
15 October Today it is global
i am happily changing the title of the thread
This things too, happen
http://storyful.com/stories/1000009933
I´ve been wondering whether to share this bad news or not to do it.
But I have the feeling that I have to do it, for, me, myself, think seriously that unfortunately it can happen. So I let it go, unburden my conscience, and let you hit me if you like.
I think this prediction is a real possibility. And thus here it goes :May American Rulers comprehend ¡
This information comes from here :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2trBgQcdOyQ
NEXT ECONOMIC CRASH END OF OCTOBER !!! CELENTESALUD ¡
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