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    • DanielD Offline
      Daniel
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      @alan fraser said:

      He was a charismatic leader that gave people a (false) meaning to their lives by leading them along a perverted path to 'betterment' by blaming other religions and ideologies for all their ills. He claimed that their culture was being polluted and their political institutions subverted and undermined by foreigners who were both morally inferior and bent upon control of that society.

      He never got his hands dirty himself in all of this, although he had performed a minor role in an earlier conflict. He was quite prepared to send large numbers of his own supporters to almost certain death in order to achieve his ambition...one of domination and the removal of all those who didn't share his world view.
      He was religiously and ideologically intolerant to the point of having no qualms about mass-murdering people who did not share that world view; and believed himself to be morally and intellectually superior to his enemies...whom he regarded as being soft and decadent, or racially inferior.

      Bin Laden or Hitler?

      Sounds like it could be either one, but as far as I know race has never been a factor for Bin Laden - his war is between Muslims (of any race) and non-Muslims. They were both heinous individuals, though, in my opinion.

      My avatar is an anachronism.

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      • Mike LuceyM Offline
        Mike Lucey
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        Mmmmm .... so I now hear on the news that the Navy Seal on finding OBL was attacked by OBL's wife. It doesn't say if she was armed. Anyway she was shot in the leg for her trouble! As for OBL, the US authorities are now saying that he was UNARMED and he was shot dead by the Navy Seal. And to make this worse, it seems that the Navy Seal had a video camera strapped to his helmet relaying the action back to Obama! This sounds like something one might see in a second rate action movie!

        I find this all very confusing and quite ill thought out.... or maybe not! It now looks like the US were positive that OBL was in this compound! Why otherwise would the video action (if this is to be believed) be relayed back to Obama? If this was the case why did they not lay sleigh to the compound and try to get OBL out alive so the World and the relatives of his 911 victims could see him put on trial and when found guilty (as I believe he would be) sentenced to 100 years for each of his victims. I don't believe in capital punishment.

        Now we are told he is at the bottom of the deep blue sea ..... somewhere! It also seems that this so called burial was carried out so quickly that there probably was no time to do DNA testing! Also I believe the compound wasn't exactly a seaside resort, so the sea looks to have been be at least 6 or 700Km distance away!

        Don't be surprised if we see Mr Bin Laden talking to us again in a grainy video telling us that he is alive a well and planning further crimes against humanity in the name of his Islam believes!

        The result of these actions seems to be a huge rise on OB's popularity! There are still many unanswered questions about 911 and now there will be many unanswered questions about what, where, when, how and if OBL is really dead OR maybe ever existed in the first place!

        I'm on the fence 😒

        Mike

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        • Alan FraserA Offline
          Alan Fraser
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          Big mistake leaving his personal details on his Playstation. 😉

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          • honoluludesktopH Offline
            honoluludesktop
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            Good one Alan.

            Didn't OLB, and Al Qaeda declared war on, and attack the non-Muslim (including America) world? How does any country fight a globally positioned enemy that has no country? The basic principle of self-defence finds defense by similar action acceptable. One side attacks by killing, and the other side defends by equal force. In conditions of war, there is little time for "due process". Ultimately, the future will judge. By then we will all be dust.

            Btw, hiding in plain view works. When my messy drafting studio was robbed. Every locked cabinet was broken into. However my check book on the open shelf, a gold watch, and jewelry in a small paper bag out in plain view were overlooked.

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            • Mike LuceyM Offline
              Mike Lucey
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              @honoluludesktop said:

              When my messy drafting studio was robbed. Every locked cabinet was broken into. However my check book on the open shelf, a gold watch, and jewelry in a small paper bag out in plain view were overlooked.

              Mmmmmm, now I will know better to check out your shelves also the next time 😉

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              • R Offline
                Roger
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                The news agencies disappoint me. They say photos from the compound are unavailable, but I have already seen one of Osama.

                http://www.azcreative.com

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                • FrederikF Offline
                  Frederik
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                  @roger said:

                  but I have already seen one of Osama.

                  So have I and the below seem to be the best (best = looks most true) of them so far...
                  Although it's not official and can be a fake image, it can also be leaked by the administration to see the reaction and based on this take a decision about releasing other images... 😕


                  osama_660513o.jpg

                  Cheers
                  Kim Frederik

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                  • GaieusG Offline
                    Gaieus
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                    I have just read a very interesting idea on another forum:

                    @unknownuser said:

                    I just had an amazing thought, one that might even explain all the incongruities and story-changing.

                    What if they took him alive and all this is for show?

                    I can think of a number of motivations to take him alive, yet claim he was killed. All of them risk backlash down the road, but our government never stops to worry about stuff like that.

                    Remember how much terrorist intel Osama has in his head. Remember that he has billions of dollars in world banks; that alone lends itself to billions of reasons to lie. Add to that scenario the number of hostages that would be taken worl-wide to secure his release if it were believed that he was still alive.

                    Remember also that one chopper was said to have taken off in minutes after the battle began by the witnesses in later stories, yet there were no casualties to evacuate.

                    Also by admission the Seals stayed for the remainder of 40 minutes gathering intel evidence; the early lift-off cannot be explained.

                    I think we may have just become the first internet site to reveal the true story; only time will tell. I'll record the time of this post for future reference. (well, I posted it at my site too, but wanted to share)

                    What do you think?

                    Well, anything is plausible nowadays... 😕

                    Gai...

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                    • honoluludesktopH Offline
                      honoluludesktop
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                      Found this elsewhere ?????
                      http://wpc.281e.edgecastcdn.net/80281E/s/s/18/media18/2011/May/3/LiveLeak-dot-com-7446fc06efcc-mlngv7.jpg.resized.jpg?d5e8cc8eccfb6039332f41f6249e92b06c91b4db65f5e99818bad792494ddbd3fc03&ec_rate=350

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                      • FrederikF Offline
                        Frederik
                        last edited by

                        @honoluludesktop said:

                        Found this elsewhere ?????

                        😆
                        OK - the image I posted is hereby a fake...
                        Gotta give them that they have excellent PS skills...

                        Cheers
                        Kim Frederik

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                        • Alan FraserA Offline
                          Alan Fraser
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                          The Prince married his beautiful Princess, then rode back to the palace in a fairy-tale coach. The evil villain with the scary beard came to a sticky end.
                          This weeks news brought to you by courtesy of The Disney Channel.

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                          • R Offline
                            rv1974
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                            Damn the best CIA agent ever!


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                            • srxS Offline
                              srx
                              last edited by

                              Evil Muslim leader with beard, white turban and military suit (as he doesn't have anything else to wear), commanding from his cave (not a castle) from far far away land in which they still use VHS tapes organizes attack on one of the most advanced technological and financial power in the world...
                              This weeks news brought to you by courtesy of The Disney Channel.

                              www.saurus.rs

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                              • srxS Offline
                                srx
                                last edited by

                                @unknownuser said:

                                Damn the best CIA agent ever!

                                ..Oh, he does have more suites!

                                www.saurus.rs

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                                • R Offline
                                  rv1974
                                  last edited by

                                  @srx said:

                                  @unknownuser said:

                                  Damn the best CIA agent ever!

                                  ..Oh, he does have more suites!

                                  This is Zbigniew Brzezinski on the left (just in case one couldn't identify) 😄

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                                  • honoluludesktopH Offline
                                    honoluludesktop
                                    last edited by

                                    The modern world is still filled with leaders that organize their people to commit genocide against innocent civilians. One by one they must be stopped.

                                    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_s6zY8-yAuYc/SlUl-oCZtzI/AAAAAAAACOg/rqknAO98iDI/s400/Bosnian+Genocide+-+Ron+Haviv+-+Bijeljina+1992.jpg

                                    http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn;ANd9GcQz19dHLq0ro2WDHOfi_JJ4owo8uIKHo_4zA2cQNWkCBesGb6dLCA

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                                    • E Offline
                                      ELYSIUM
                                      last edited by

                                      For all the military nerds out there:

                                      The secret drone that we've known for some years as the "Beast of Kandahar" may have been involved in the raid, providing the live feed to the white house.
                                      Plus a unknown type of stealth helicopter was also used in the incursion!

                                      ahhh, there is nothing like some black ops rumors...

                                      for more info - http://defensetech.org/


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                                      • J Offline
                                        JuanV.Soler
                                        last edited by

                                        I think all this stuff from USA is obscene.
                                        USA, well, not USA, but their actual leaders, are playing a nasty game.
                                        Hiding information, showing what they like, saying or not saying ...
                                        And the whole world watching, while Libya burns, Syria burns ...


                                        Indeed something big must be going on.
                                        I feel we are completely lost as we, human beings, used to be when Heaven, the Sky, had a meaning for all of us.
                                        Now Heaven, the Sky, has been kidnapped for all of us. And only lasts the Media.


                                        So better get under.
                                        On oneself.
                                        To get the root again.

                                        NO OTHER WAY.-
                                        (my thought, obviously) 😉

                                        ,))),

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                                        • srxS Offline
                                          srx
                                          last edited by

                                          I have to repeat this:

                                          @unknownuser said:

                                          I think all this stuff from USA is obscene.
                                          USA, well, not USA, but their actual leaders, are playing a nasty game.
                                          Hiding information, showing what they like, saying or not saying ...
                                          And the whole world watching, while Libya burns, Syria burns ...


                                          Indeed something big must be going on.
                                          I feel we are completely lost as we, human beings, used to be when Heaven, the Sky, had a meaning for all of us.
                                          Now Heaven, the Sky, has been kidnapped for all of us. And only lasts the Media.


                                          So better get under.
                                          On oneself.
                                          To get the root again.

                                          NO OTHER WAY.-
                                          (my thought, obviously)

                                          Thank you for this words
                                          👍

                                          ...but how to escape from this:
                                          http://www.globalarchitectsguide.com/library/Grdelica-train-bombing.php

                                          Do you think Osama did this?


                                          Grdelica_train.jpg


                                          Bombing of civil targets in Europe.

                                          www.saurus.rs

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                                          • honoluludesktopH Offline
                                            honoluludesktop
                                            last edited by

                                            @unknownuser said:

                                            The NATO bombing of Yugoslavia was NATO's military operation against the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia during the Kosovo War. The strikes lasted from March 24, 1999 to June 10, 1999.

                                            The bombing of Yugoslavia was intended to stop the alleged Yugoslav military operation Operation Horseshoe and to keep the Yugoslav army from repeating the atrocities committed in Bosnia.

                                            The NATO bombing marked the second major combat operation in its history, following the 1995 NATO bombing campaign in Bosnia and Herzegovina.

                                            The bombings led to the withdrawal of Yugoslav forces from Kosovo, establishment of UNMIK, a UN mission in Kosovo and put an end to the Yugoslav Wars of the 1990s. The bombing campaign was criticized, especially for the number of civilian casualties that resulted from the bombing.

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