Osama bin Laden's hideout in Abbottabad Pakistan
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The only thing you - IMO - should raise a question about is, that OBL claimed that the Bush administration was warned about the 911 attack...
Not in details, but OBL claimed that US Intelligence had been warned that something "BIG" was going to happen...Please also remember that only one week after the 911 attack, a sick person Bruce Edwards Ivins - was also on a personal vendetta toward the US Gov...
Please read more about the Amerithrax...The New York Post and NBC News letters contained the following note:
@unknownuser said:
09-11-01 THIS IS NEXT TAKE PENACILIN NOW DEATH TO AMERICA DEATH TO ISRAEL ALLAH IS GREAT@unknownuser said:
09-11-01 YOU CAN NOT STOP US. WE HAVE THIS ANTHRAX. YOU DIE NOW. ARE YOU AFRAID? DEATH TO AMERICA. DEATH TO ISRAEL. ALLAH IS GREAT.To begin with, US Intelligence thought al-Qaeda was also responsible for these attacks...
If I was the US Gov, I would have sticked to 'Amerithrax'...
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@juanv.soler said:
Frederik, Alan,
thankyou for telling your thoughts on this issue.
Anyone else likes to comment ?
cheersI saw George Galloway on that aefortruth site and I didn't give it anymore of my time.
I'd suggest you invest your energies in something more meaningful than this.
I couldn't care how OBL's story finally ended. Dead or alive he's gone. The OBL event is sensationalism and most people love that type of thing. After his death, it was 'let's see the pictures'! Just to satisfy public curiosity.
OBL ended up living in a shithole making threats to camera and dying his beard. He was a coward and a scoundrel. Now he's fish food.
As for that Mr.Gage fellow. He needs to return to his profession and not let such credentials go to waste.
[EDIT] I just noticed Fred didn't use a smiley in his reply. Time to duck for cover.....RTFM
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@srx said:
Thank you for the links Juan...
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Why didn't they gave him a chance to defend himself?
Why they throw him in the sea?
...IMO there is too much questions here...What defense is there? OBL incited the deaths of thousands. What could he say that he already hasn't said?
I'm all for a good conspiracy and I definitely question anything presented by our government as "fact", but in this case no matter what the guy on the street corner wearing sandwich boards rants about, 9/11 happened the way it did. Terrorists crashed aircraft into the WTC buildings and the buildings collapsed. Tens of thousands saw it happen, I saw the smoking buildings from 30,000 ft.
The burial question is answered. The last thing the world needs is a coffin carried through the streets with thousands for fanatics chanting "Death to America" and burning flags or a burial site to have a temple built on it only to become a center of anti-western hate.
As far as the US government conspiracy - our government is too inept to have pulled anything like this off. They've proven time and time again that they can't keep secrets - and that's generally a good thing - and they couldn't pull it off.
Feel free to disagree about that, but there's no proof by "loose change" or any other group that positively indicates otherwise, and arguing otherwise doesn't make a round world flat again.
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@frederik said:
The only thing you - IMO - should raise a question about is, that OBL claimed that the Bush administration was warned about the 911 attack...
Not in details, but OBL claimed that US Intelligence had been warned that something "BIG" was going to happen...Yeah. Never been quite sure what to make of this. Although a likely scenario is that, though warned, the US simply failed to advert the attacks.
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/05/16/us/bush-was-warned-bin-laden-wanted-to-hijack-planes.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002/may/19/terrorism.september11
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Thankyou people ,_) for sharing your thoughts here.
I do not have it clear. It is hard to me, to understand both towers collapse because of the hit of the planes. I, as well, give credit to the Architects and Civil Engineers who claim for a further investigation about it. Plus, there are a lot of questions unanswered yet, as has been pointed here, Building 7, why the CIA did not gave credit if Bin Landen warned about it, etc...Why such a hurry to invade other COUNTRIES and not clarifying first the facts ?
I do not know.
I understand the queries some people here talk about the danger of exposing now Bin Laden´ corpse, if that is true.
But, nevertheless,
if all the target of USA and sadly, most of Europe as well, is to lead the world towards Democracy and Human Rights the way they are doing, well, then ,we are not going to achieve it. That for me is clear.
Something smells bad like in one of Shakespeare´s writings.
this is FAR-WEST
And it is the 21 century.
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I also think that something is wrong here...but I never said it was US government.
I don't think that governments are making real decisions any more. They don't look too serious to me, more like
actors on TV (Regan, Arnold, ...
...I also don't think that terrorist are real treat to the WORLD. They have never been, except in movies (Die hard, Batman...)The real treat is slowly taking away our freedom with which we are loosing our human side.
Its good we have internet to discuss things...to open our eyes wide. To talk to each other...
So thank you for talking ...should do some boring architecture now -
IMO the biggest problem we have these days is too much information. The 24 hour news cycle runs on ratings, and they need to find content, so instead of facts they offer opinion, lots of opinion, then there is the regurgitation of unchecked facts, catch phrasing and talking points.
Then we have the house and the senate that also run on ratings, having C-span recording everything that's happening, so what happens is the politicians do not want to be seen negotiating and compromising so they bandstand for their base, unwavering on there platforms, thus nothing gets done.
Thirdly we embed our media with the troops...really, you never going to win a war with the media showing everything to the nation/world.
just an opinion.
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@unknownuser said:
[EDIT] I just noticed Fred didn't use a smiley in his reply. Time to duck for cover.....RTFM
But you're right...
However, no need to take cover... I really don't want to start a flame war about this topic... -
Anyhoo. If further proof were needed that releasing photos of Bin Laden's corpse would be a complete waste of time you need look no further than this. And this, despite the fact that Al Qaeda admits he's dead.
People will believe what they want to believe. Never let the facts get in the way of a good rumour. -
http://www.corbettreport.com/the-last-word-on-osama-bin-laden-video/
I really don't know him, bit he's just spoken my words from this topic...
as well as the whole Pakistan. I bet it will be the next target. Look at the map.
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