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    • L Offline
      Larsen
      last edited by

      Imagine a newbie who knows the ABC of Ruby programming. He's lost among 1000 code lines and doesn't grasp the essence of a plugin. Snippet (10 or so of lines) does.
      Thnxs.

      [Every form of thinking perish by excess of its basic principles.

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        thomthom
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        @larsen said:

        Imagine a newbie who knows the ABC of Ruby programming. He's lost among 1000 code lines and doesn't grasp the essence of a plugin. Snippet (10 or so of lines) does.
        Thnxs.

        Yes - as long as one makes the assumption that they know the basics of the language.

        Have you looked at the snippets linked in the previous link? Got a particular concept in mind? Particular beginner issues to address?

        Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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        • Chris FullmerC Offline
          Chris Fullmer
          last edited by

          There are lots of snippets lying around. I started a video tutorial series where I specify a simple task then write the code to accomplish, explaining line by line what the code is doing. The API also has many snippets of code in it (definietly could use more, slightly more robust snippets).

          I like the idea of doing more to help beginners figure things out for sure. I still have not figured out the precise best way to do it though.

          Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
          All my Plugins I've written

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          • L Offline
            Larsen
            last edited by

            Tons of snippets are lying around, but few have 3D-SU goals/concept. What I would tell is that SU is specific for concepts relating to 3D expressions. Such concepts would first be enumerated: concept of rotating , concepts of translation, and so on. A master of SU-Ruby (I am keen to tell Gouru for their overwhelming production under rbs label --with some exceptions--) would express a concept with easyness parcimony, not at the hand of a novice. And then the motivated novice, I am sure will test the snippet, rearrange it and ONE day childbirth (!) snippets which will became a plugin NOT rbs one.
            Cogitations or Hallucinations, it's up to you to judge.

            I am ashamed to tell thanks for my ignorance.

            [Every form of thinking perish by excess of its basic principles.

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            • thomthomT Offline
              thomthom
              last edited by

              You seen this: http://www.martinrinehart.com/models/tutorial/?

              Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
              List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                Larsen
                last edited by

                Yes, I know the site of martinrinehart.

                Thanks.

                [Every form of thinking perish by excess of its basic principles.

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                • L Offline
                  Larsen
                  last edited by

                  I stumbled upon this post:

                  Ruby Script Video Tutorial - Multiple PushPull Script
                  Postby Chris Fullmer on Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:53 am
                  Hi, this video shows how to write a script the does a push/pull over many selected faces. Its about 10 lines of code, and I explain it in under 5 minutes. I could even be simplified down to 1 line of code really. But that is pretty dense code. So writing it in 10 lines is easier to read πŸ˜„

                  I would not have said it better.

                  Thanks Chris.

                  [Every form of thinking perish by excess of its basic principles.

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                  • L Offline
                    Larsen
                    last edited by

                    Here another post by Chris who illustrate my idea (His idea).

                    BEGIN
                    Ruby Script Video Tutorial - add Construction Points
                    Postby Chris Fullmer on Fri Oct 30, 2009 5:39 pm
                    Ok, this is my first attempt at a real time, script writing tutorial. I might do another here shortly. I know some people are not fond of my videos, so I've done this to spite them πŸ˜„ And I've heard some people like the videos a lot, so those people are allowed to watch and listen.
                    But I warn you, this is Ruby scripting in real time. So its not super duper exciting, unless you like Ruby or want to learn to script.
                    It's only about 6 lines of code, so you can't get too confusedI hope.
                    END

                    You're RIGHT Chris.

                    What else.

                    [Every form of thinking perish by excess of its basic principles.

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                    • Dan RathbunD Offline
                      Dan Rathbun
                      last edited by

                      Sorry, but I'm really good at lurking.. πŸ˜›

                      Have you noticed my Ruby Newbie's Guide to Getting Started

                      which points at RUBY RESOURCES

                      I'm not here much anymore.

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                      • L Offline
                        Larsen
                        last edited by

                        I am not talking about RUBY RESOURCES, but about perception process. By the way, do you know from whom we inherited lurking?

                        [Every form of thinking perish by excess of its basic principles.

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                        • Dan RathbunD Offline
                          Dan Rathbun
                          last edited by

                          @larsen said:

                          By the way, do you know from whom we inherited lurking?

                          @unknownuser said:

                          (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/lurking)":27ob9p2a]

                          Origin:
                          1250–1300; ME lurken, freq. of lower2; cf. Norw lurka to sneak away

                          @unknownuser said:

                          (http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search)":27ob9p2a]
                          ... probably from Scandinavian (cf. dial. Norw. lurka "to sneak away," dial. Swed. lurka "to be slow in one's work"), perhaps ult. related to M.E. luren "to frown, lurk"

                          So it probably came from Viking Norse, via Middle English, as a result of the Norse invasion into Britain (circa 875-950.)

                          I'm not here much anymore.

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                          • thomthomT Offline
                            thomthom
                            last edited by

                            @dan rathbun said:

                            So it probably came from Viking Norse

                            😎 Grade 8 lurker

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                            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                            • honoluludesktopH Offline
                              honoluludesktop
                              last edited by

                              Didn't read all of the above, how about this SketchUcation Topic? Been there lots of time to look at stuff. Thanks to Jim!!!

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                              • L Offline
                                Larsen
                                last edited by

                                Very interesting link.

                                http://jasonpaulgrant.co.uk/my-work/articles/42-is-lurking-a-problem.html

                                [Every form of thinking perish by excess of its basic principles.

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                                • Dan RathbunD Offline
                                  Dan Rathbun
                                  last edited by

                                  "snippet" does not mean 'small' ...

                                  ... it means some code that you can 'cut and paste' into your own code project.

                                  I'm not here much anymore.

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                                  • C Offline
                                    Cleverbeans
                                    last edited by

                                    @dan rathbun said:

                                    "snippet" does not mean 'small' ...

                                    If we're being pedantic then "snippet" is the diminutive of "snip" so it does in fact mean "a small portion of".

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                                    • Dan RathbunD Offline
                                      Dan Rathbun
                                      last edited by

                                      Ok fine.. I'll give ya that.

                                      But he wants a word that is smaller than small (limited to 10 lines.)

                                      How about pygmy code or pygmy snippet ??

                                      I'm not here much anymore.

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                                      • K Offline
                                        kwalkerman
                                        last edited by

                                        How about compiling a list of simple plugins that newbies can learn from? I find it is really helpful to learn from something that actually does something useful. We can develop a list of existing plugins, that are well-written, short, and accomplish something useful. I've learned alot from reading other people's code, and it definitely would've been useful to me to have a short list of plugins to download and learn from.

                                        I think that lots of people on this forum could develop a short list of their plugins that would help a beginner. This would provide an excellent resource without sapping TONS of time.

                                        --
                                        Karen

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                                        • Chris FullmerC Offline
                                          Chris Fullmer
                                          last edited by

                                          Thats not a bad idea. Many of my smaller scripts are simple. There are always questions about learning bad habits from others. I try hard, but I'm sure there are still things I do wrong. I'd hate for others to learn that from me.

                                          Also, am I the only one that finds the linetool.rb rather dense to read? I have not looked at it for a little while now, but when I was learning, I could not make heads or tales of that thing.

                                          Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
                                          All my Plugins I've written

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                                          • thomthomT Offline
                                            thomthom
                                            last edited by

                                            @chris fullmer said:

                                            Also, am I the only one that finds the linetool.rb rather dense to read? I have not looked at it for a little while now, but when I was learning, I could not make heads or tales of that thing.

                                            Yes. I think a cleaner linetool would be useful.

                                            Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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