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    • jason_marantoJ Offline
      jason_maranto
      last edited by

      I'm finding all these videos fascinating -- does the software have a Angle of View/Field of View/Focal Length modifier for the camera? The reason I ask is I find the perspective distortion to be too extreme when rotating the camera (the strong fisheye effect at the corners makes me a bit dizzy).

      Best,
      Jason.

      I create video tutorial series about several 2D & 3D graphics programs.

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      • marvins_dadM Offline
        marvins_dad
        last edited by

        There is an Exposure and Focal Length setting (in mm). The default setting is ISO 400 15mm.
        I hadn't looked at that yet - did notice the fisheying with the interior...figured I would check that out next time around.

        @jason_maranto said:

        I'm finding all these videos fascinating -- does the software have a Angle of View/Field of View/Focal Length modifier for the camera? The reason I ask is I find the perspective distortion to be too extreme when rotating the camera (the strong fisheye effect at the corners makes me a bit dizzy).

        Best,
        Jason.

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        • jason_marantoJ Offline
          jason_maranto
          last edited by

          Yeah 15mm would do it 🤢 -- something along the lines of 50mm would be much easier to enjoy the cool stuff in these videos ☀

          Best,
          Jason.

          I create video tutorial series about several 2D & 3D graphics programs.

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          • GaieusG Offline
            Gaieus
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            Yes, there is a focal length setting (with some other generic camera settings). It really needs some playing around to get my favourite settings (and you would probably use something different for outdoors and for tight spaces like indoors, too).

            FocalLength.jpg
            As for the very white; any rendering engine would be sensitive to that. As a general rule of thumb; never use pure white on anything as there is no such thing in real life.

            I have not tried it indoors yet. The projects I am experimenting with are quite narrow spaces... And what's Lumion is good at is its environment (plants, dynamic atmosphere/water etc.), quick terrain editing tools (sculpting and painting - although the ease of accuracy still nee some fine tuning IMO).

            Gai...

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            • marvins_dadM Offline
              marvins_dad
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              @gaieus said:

              [attachment=0:olwbszh9]<!-- ia0 -->FocalLength.jpg<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:olwbszh9]

              Wow - looks like you found more settings than I have. Maybe it is a difference from the demo to a full version. Promising that there are more adjustments. 👍

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              • GaieusG Offline
                Gaieus
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                Read the FAQ:
                http://lumion3d.com/forum/index.php?topic=638.0
                😉
                and here is the screenshot:


                settings.jpg

                Gai...

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                • marvins_dadM Offline
                  marvins_dad
                  last edited by

                  Thanks!
                  I found the setting, not sure in the demo it changes anything though.

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                  • marvins_dadM Offline
                    marvins_dad
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                    A couple questions - think we are close to getting the software.
                    BTW - they have it on sale right now until May 8th for those that are on the fence.

                    If someone knows - I'd appreciate if they can help me out with these...otherwise I can search their forums.
                    1 - Can you adjust the sun per location/time/day similar to SketchUp? My initial investigation leads me to think not.
                    2 - Can you change the sun angle during your move around the model in an animation? Basically so you can light the northern side a little more so it isn't being rendered in shadow.

                    Thanks

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                    • GaieusG Offline
                      Gaieus
                      last edited by

                      Hi Antoine

                      1. No (at least I have not found anything).
                      2. Yes, you can animate the Sun

                      And thanks for the heads-up with the spring sale! Wrote an "urging post" in The Daily CatchUp:
                      Permalink: http://news.sketchucation.com/lumion3d-sale/ ‎Edit lumion3d-sale

                      Gai...

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                        Ecuadorian
                        last edited by

                        It's a scene effect. You can set the sun per clip.

                        -Miguel Lescano
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                        • GaieusG Offline
                          Gaieus
                          last edited by

                          Yes, I should have been more informative. Here is the screenshot.

                          AnimateSun.jpg

                          @ecuadorian said:

                          You can set the sun per clip.

                          You can add these effects to the whole movie (if you select that when adding) however, not only per scene.

                          I guess if you have animated clouds for instance, that could/should go whole movie level while animated sun could only go for one scene where you want to show something related.

                          Gai...

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                            Ecuadorian
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                            Actually I have had problems with animated sun: If you set it in one clip, you need to reset it in the next clip. Otherwise, it will stay as it was at the end of the previous clip. I wish the clips without the effect just kept the setting you used while in build mode, but no... Even the build mode setting is lost once you use this effect in one clip, visit that clip and then return to build mode.

                            Too much words. I better post a video I finished on saturday for an architecture student. This is his final project:
                            [flash=853,505:29pcvn6a]http://www.youtube.com/v/XJf9z0V-4w8&fs=1[/flash:29pcvn6a]
                            Link to HD video:
                            http://youtu.be/XJf9z0V-4w8?hd=1
                            As Gaieus noted, you can set the animated clouds for the whole movie. I did just that.

                            Hey, this thread is pretty long. How about opening a part 2?

                            -Miguel Lescano
                            Subscribe to my house plans YouTube channel! (30K+ subs)

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                            • GaieusG Offline
                              Gaieus
                              last edited by

                              Yes, these settings override build mode (and the settings here are not the most intuitive either IMO - that is; you never now how accurately you are setting...).

                              Now if in an initial clip I set the sun as somewhat rising (and maybe even the fog slowly disappearing/rising), I have no problem with the sun staying where it reached in the previous clip in the next clip - at least for a project I am working on ATM.

                              Gai...

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                              • marvins_dadM Offline
                                marvins_dad
                                last edited by

                                Thanks.

                                I did find a thread where they are wanting to emplement location and time lighting controls in the future....timeline is months, not years to add this feature.

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                                • marvins_dadM Offline
                                  marvins_dad
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                                  Ecuadorian - thanks for the video as well.
                                  (didn't see this page when I posted).
                                  Thanks for the screenshot Gai - that helps when you can see where to find it. The learning curve for this program is odd because some things are really easy and intuitive, but others are hidden and take some time to find all the settings.

                                  I think we are pretty close to purchasing...we are currently using it on 3 projects to evaluate the software this week and so far have had a really good response from the powers that be.

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                                  • GaieusG Offline
                                    Gaieus
                                    last edited by

                                    Fine then. Some more purchases and I will claim a free copy.
                                    😄

                                    Joking aside; yes, together with the pro's and con's AND provided one can justify the costs, this is a good software. If some further features are implemented, it will be a fine product.

                                    You can also import SU terrain BTW although I have discovered some funny things (I will write some notes here).

                                    Gai...

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                                    • boofredlayB Offline
                                      boofredlay
                                      last edited by

                                      I really have to check into Lumion. I like this Bruce.

                                      http://www.coroflot.com/boofredlay

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                                      • E Offline
                                        Ecuadorian
                                        last edited by

                                        I was about to ask you about the grass edges...

                                        You have inspired me to try some desaturation on my future videos. 👍

                                        And yeah, I'm also using it for stills, as it's bloody fast to populate the scene with vegetation, vehicles, people, buildings, etc:


                                        Plaza Elevada - sin techo010.jpg

                                        -Miguel Lescano
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                                          [flash=800,470:31hus8gm]http://www.youtube.com/v/b8-YKrLrngk?fs=1&hl=en_US[/flash:31hus8gm]

                                          [img:y90a5vdg]http://lh5.ggpht.com/_rMc47FEl0fA/Sro-DozMGPI/AAAAAAAABwU/zZsLbdpwWAs/forum_onderschrift_r3d_30pxh.jpg[/img:y90a5vdg] [url:y90a5vdg]http://www.R3Design.nl[/url:y90a5vdg]

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                                          • GaieusG Offline
                                            Gaieus
                                            last edited by

                                            Hi Ricardo,

                                            Nice video, however some observations:

                                            • At around 0:40.0:50, we can see a pool from the side. To me it seems that you somehow managed to paint the side of the pool with that water material, too - that looks a bit funny from here.
                                            • You have vast areas with grass - the original grass material you exported from SU I presume. You can turn this into Lumion "grass" - the same material it uses for its terrain (see an example video below).
                                              This would make it sure that you exported terrain blends perfectly with the surrounding Lumion terrain and since the Lumion materials (for terrain at least) are procedural, it would not even be so apparently repeating pattern that you have now. On top of all, if you switch that material to Lumion terrain material, you can also "paint" on it with the Lumion terrain edit > Paint tools (alwys do this in a TOP view however as there is a glitch which is mora apparent with very sloping terrains or terrains quite high above the "real" Lumion terrain).
                                            • In some of the interior shots, where there are those very white materials, they seem to bloom too much. I do not know what colour you used there but as a general rule of thumb, pure white should never be used - something around 80-90% of whiteness (i.e. some light grey) might be better - but I do not know how this would work with Lumion...

                                            See this video on how to blend your imported terrain with Lumion terrain. It's mostly at the beginning of the tutorial, from around 0:45/50 on...

                                            [flash=600,400:1ea2lw9e]http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=17529494&amp;server=vimeo.com&amp;show_title=1&amp;show_byline=1&amp;show_portrait=0&amp;color=&amp;fullscreen=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always" width="400" height="225"[/flash:1ea2lw9e]

                                            But again, cool video and nice presentation (I have not really played around with interiors too much yet)

                                            Gai...

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