sketchucation logo sketchucation
    • Login
    ℹ️ Licensed Extensions | FredoBatch, ElevationProfile, FredoSketch, LayOps, MatSim and Pic2Shape will require license from Sept 1st More Info

    Help Needed Intersecting a Stile and Rail

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Woodworking
    23 Posts 5 Posters 3.1k Views 5 Watching
    Loading More Posts
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as topic
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • ely862meE Offline
      ely862me
      last edited by

      Hope u can get it from this!


      Side Frame tut by ed.jpg


      Side Frame tut by ed.skp

      Elisei (sketchupper)


      Before no life was done on Earth it was THE LIFE ITSELF...GOD
      Come and See EliseiDesign

      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
      • D Offline
        DaveS
        last edited by

        Got it!!!!
        I appreciate your time and patience.
        Thank you, thank you, thank you!

        Dave

        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
        • D Offline
          DaveS
          last edited by

          Ed,

          I followed your tutorial and all went well. I do not understand why you have to explode the components before editing, but I guess that is one of the mysteries of life.

          Now, if I can be so bold, a follow up question. Is there a quick way to repeat the profile on the other end of the rail? Or, do I have to do the procedure for each side?

          Thanks again.

          Dave

          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
          • Dave RD Offline
            Dave R
            last edited by

            There should never be a reason to explode a component to edit it.

            I can think of several easier ways to do this.

            One way would be to:

            Open the stile component for editing.
            Select the faces that make up the inner edge profile.
            Copy them (Ctrl+C).
            Close the stile component.
            Open the rail component for editing.
            Go to the Edit menu and choose Paste in place.
            Select all of the geometry for the edge profile and the rail.
            Right click on the selection.
            Choose Intersect Faces>With Selected.
            Delete the waste
            Correct the face orientation in the cope.
            Repeat for the opposite end.

            Or easier for the second end, I would make the rail half as long as needed, cut the cope on the first end, select all the geometry in the rail component, Move/Copy the selection over to the side where the missing half of the rail is supposed to be, flip the copy and join it to the original copy. Delete the coplanar edges and you're finished.

            Another way would be to copy (Ctrl+C) the end of the stile, open the rail for editing, Use Edit>Paste in place to paste the end profile of the stile into the rail component, Use Ctrl+Push/Pull which will allow you to push the profile through the rail and a little beyond, similar to what I had done in the SKP I posted. Select all of it, run the Intersect and delete the waste. Correct the face orientation.

            Probably the easiest if you have SU8 Pro is to use the Intersect option of the Solid Tools.

            None of these involve exploding components which you shouldn't need to do.

            Etaoin Shrdlu

            %

            (THERE'S NO PLACE LIKE)

            G28 X0.0 Y0.0 Z0.0

            M30

            %

            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
            • ely862meE Offline
              ely862me
              last edited by

              @daves said:

              Ed,

              I followed your tutorial and all went well. I do not understand why you have to explode the components before editing, but I guess that is one of the mysteries of life.

              Now, if I can be so bold, a follow up question. Is there a quick way to repeat the profile on the other end of the rail? Or, do I have to do the procedure for each side?

              Thanks again.

              Dave

              DaveR is completely right,it's just that for me it was easier to temporary explode the components to make the final ones.


              Side Frame tut2a.jpg

              Elisei (sketchupper)


              Before no life was done on Earth it was THE LIFE ITSELF...GOD
              Come and See EliseiDesign

              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
              • D Offline
                DaveS
                last edited by

                I just realized that I was replying to people incorrectly. I did not read the name of the person closely and thus addressed my replies to the wrong person. So .... Thanks to ALL who helped me resolve this issue. This is a GREAT resource and has some great people involved with it.

                Dave

                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                • Dave RD Offline
                  Dave R
                  last edited by

                  Good illustration there, Elisei. Once you've drawn a rail (and a stile) with this cope and stick profile, you should never need to draw another one. You only need to modify the length of the first one. You can also change the overall width of the frame members so you'll have every size covered.

                  Etaoin Shrdlu

                  %

                  (THERE'S NO PLACE LIKE)

                  G28 X0.0 Y0.0 Z0.0

                  M30

                  %

                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                  • D Offline
                    DaveS
                    last edited by

                    OK, let me show my ignorance one more time. How do you recommend changing the length? If you use the Scale Tool won't that change the size of the profile on the end of the rail? And, the Push-Pull Tool can't be used because neither end is flat?

                    DaveS

                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                    • D Offline
                      dedmin
                      last edited by

                      http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=323&t=17948

                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                      • TIGT Offline
                        TIG Moderator
                        last edited by

                        @daves said:

                        OK, let me show my ignorance one more time. How do you recommend changing the length? If you use the Scale Tool won't that change the size of the profile on the end of the rail? And, the Push-Pull Tool can't be used because neither end is flat?
                        DaveS

                        Modify your 'View'. Select ALL of the 'end' geometry by left-right fence and Move it!
                        [use axis-lock (shift) if required...]

                        TIG

                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                        • ely862meE Offline
                          ely862me
                          last edited by

                          As I said in my last image...select the entire end of the profile and move it to the desired length .


                          Side Frame tut2a.jpg

                          Elisei (sketchupper)


                          Before no life was done on Earth it was THE LIFE ITSELF...GOD
                          Come and See EliseiDesign

                          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                          • Dave RD Offline
                            Dave R
                            last edited by

                            You can use Fredo Scale if you want but I would just drag a left to right selection box around the end that needs adjusting and use the Move tool. To see that in action, take a look at the video at this link.

                            Etaoin Shrdlu

                            %

                            (THERE'S NO PLACE LIKE)

                            G28 X0.0 Y0.0 Z0.0

                            M30

                            %

                            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                            • Dave RD Offline
                              Dave R
                              last edited by

                              Three of us with the same answer. Must mean something. 😉

                              Etaoin Shrdlu

                              %

                              (THERE'S NO PLACE LIKE)

                              G28 X0.0 Y0.0 Z0.0

                              M30

                              %

                              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                              • D Offline
                                DaveS
                                last edited by

                                Got it!

                                I must learn to read CAREFULLY. You said select the end and move. I didn't know you could do that. I was trying to select the end of the component and that obviously won't work. You folks (all of you) are very helpful. I learned a lot today.

                                Thanks.

                                DaveS

                                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                • 1
                                • 2
                                • 2 / 2
                                • First post
                                  Last post
                                Buy SketchPlus
                                Buy SUbD
                                Buy WrapR
                                Buy eBook
                                Buy Modelur
                                Buy Vertex Tools
                                Buy SketchCuisine
                                Buy FormFonts

                                Advertisement