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    • soloS Offline
      solo
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      Jeff, the wikileaks does not only expose the USA, it also leaves egg on the face of the Saudi's and a few other middle eastern puppet governments.
      Another thing you must realise is this info was available to more than 100.000 government officials in the US, so if it really was so secretive they did a sucky job at keeping it a secret.
      Maybe getting info from places like China, Russia, Uk, etc is more difficult because they keep them better?

      Personally I think wikileaks is a great thing, remember the WW2 saying "loose lips sink ships"? we need to relearn history.

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      • EscapeArtistE Offline
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        I understand that the dirt gets spread around a little by proxy, but the info is still from US documents. The US has had a tight grip on many things for a while, and yes, maybe they do need a kick in the butt to get things right - but I doubt the outcome will be good. If someone expects more openness and an apologetic US I think they are wrong, they are likely to get the opposite, including more aggressive and punitive actions with loose justification to go after the perpetrators. That's simply the way things are headed here.

        What really ticks me off was the guy that downloaded and distributed the info was a US soldier. What the heck was he thinking? I'm not a rah-rah patriot, USA! USA! type at all, in fact I find that embarrassing, but when you sign up for the military and swear to protect secrets, this is unbelievable. It's one thing to blow the whistle on something bad, say hypothetically the military is dumping thousands of gallons of radioactive waste into the ocean on the sly, but another to leak it because he wanted to prove it was easily done (according to one report), among other reasons.

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        • soloS Offline
          solo
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          You know, the more I read about this "leak" I wonder, was it really a leak?

          Okay so it is a little embarrassing for a few diplomats, okay so the world now knows what we think of certain world leaders (who probably already knew these facts anyway). But did the world know about who is supporting Hezbollah?, does the world know that the Muslim world is divided on Iran?

          I dunno, but this is more damning on Iran and middle eastern countries than America, who knows this could have been a great play if intended.

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          • EscapeArtistE Offline
            EscapeArtist
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            Indeed.

            http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/trust-no-one.jpg

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            • StinkieS Offline
              Stinkie
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              @solo said:

              I dunno, but this is more damning on Iran and middle eastern countries than America, who knows this could have been a great play if intended.

              Possibly. Perhaps the US is trying to put pressure on the Chinese?

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              • soloS Offline
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                Best quote I've read in a long time, Jon Stewart on the war in the middle east:

                "So if we give them money for oil, that allows them to buy weapons from us with a little left over to fund terrorist groups that we must then send our military over to fight, which costs a lot of money and fuel (which we buy from them). It's like we're the commission-less middlemen in a war we're waging on ourselves."

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                • StinkieS Offline
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                  😆

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                  • DanielD Offline
                    Daniel
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                    @unknownuser said:

                    I seriously can't be the only one who feels these sort of practices are questionable. If it were any other country than the US - say Iran, or North Korea 😒 - there'd be serious consequences.

                    Chances are, other countries aren't too vocal in condemning these practices is because they are just a guilty.

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                    • boofredlayB Offline
                      boofredlay
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                      I am so damn tired of trying to make Storefront or Curtainwall Wall elements work properly in Revit. Whoever wrote the code should be strung up by their balls.

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                      • thomthomT Offline
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                        @unknownuser said:

                        I am so damn tired of trying to make Storefront or Curtainwall Wall elements work properly in Revit. Whoever wrote the code should be strung up by their balls.

                        I think you can team up with the Revit guys at my office. (Just don't mention the stair tool.)

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                        • boofredlayB Offline
                          boofredlay
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                          Or railings for that matter. Must have been the same programmers.

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                          • StinkieS Offline
                            Stinkie
                            last edited by

                            @daniel said:

                            @unknownuser said:

                            I seriously can't be the only one who feels these sort of practices are questionable. If it were any other country than the US - say Iran, or North Korea 😒 - there'd be serious consequences.

                            Chances are, other countries aren't too vocal in condemning these practices is because they are just a guilty.

                            Yes ... I'm afraid that may very well be true. Although I'm sure they're not that keen on p*ssing off the US either. Apart from Venezuela, that is. 😆

                            @unknownuser said:

                            I am so damn tired of trying to make Storefront or Curtainwall Wall elements work properly in Revit. Whoever wrote the code should be strung up by their balls.

                            😆 Nice one, mr. L.

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                            • soloS Offline
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                              OMG!!~!

                              Really? no way, only in America.

                              I'm at a loss for words, this is what they want to teach our kids.

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                              • boofredlayB Offline
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                                😆

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                                • soloS Offline
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                                  I'm just floored by this, these are elected officials, how do you deal with ignorance of this magnitude?

                                  So... back to the bible story, how big exactly was this ark? we gonna have to recalculate as those dinosaurs were pretty big critters.

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                                      HOW ON EARTH HAS QATAR GOT THE 2022 WORLD CUP?!

                                      @unknownuser said:

                                      Alcohol consumption is legal in Qatar, but with significant limitations. The few bars are restricted to expensive hotels and nightclubs. Expats in Qatar are eligible to receive liquor permits permitting them to purchase alcohol for personal use through the Qatar Distribution Company.

                                      Alcohol is illegal to be shown and drunk in public.

                                      Have FIFA ever met football fans?!

                                      Russia in 2018 and Qatar 2022. 🤢

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                                      • soloS Offline
                                        solo
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                                        LOL, I really like Eddie Izzard.

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                                        • Chris FullmerC Offline
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                                          There is never a reason to load the toilet paper so the paper falls down the back side and out under the roll. Never ever ever ever! Just don't do it.

                                          (well, unless you have a child/cat that sits there and rolls it off easily when its installed the correct way)

                                          Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
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                                          • L Offline
                                            linea
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                                            Cuts to public services whereby most of the workers have their hours reduced or are made redundant, while the management get slapped on the back for saving money but they themselves carry on on the same salary as always. So who are they managing?

                                            The managers then say they cannot do any work as they don't have the manpower. So presumably their just sat in their offices "prioritising".

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