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    • soloS Offline
      solo
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      I recommend....

      CASE: Raidmax Monster All Aluminum Gaming Case with Advance Heat Management

      DVD: 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive

      CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-950 3.06 GHz 8M Intel Smart Cache LGA1366

      FAN: NZXT Liquid Cooling System 120MM Radiator & Fan (Enhanced Cooling Performance + Extreme Silent at 20dBA)

      HDD: 1TB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HD

      MEMORY: 12GB (4GBx3) DDR3/1600MHz Triple Channel Memory Module Corsair

      MOTHERBOARD: Asus P6T SE Intel X58 Chipset CrossFireX Mainboard Triple-Channel DDR3/1600 SATA RAID w/ eSATA,GbLAN,USB2.0,IEEE1394a,&7.1Audio

      POWERSUPPLY: 700 Watts - Standard Case Power Supply

      SERVICE: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT

      SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO

      Approx $1000

      http://www.solos-art.com

      If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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      • thomthomT Offline
        thomthom
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        @solo said:

        SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO

        For rendering? Your render engine got sound effects? I want too! 😄

        Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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        • soloS Offline
          solo
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          That's for watching Netflix while rendering...c'mon get with the program. 💚

          http://www.solos-art.com

          If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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          • mitcorbM Offline
            mitcorb
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            Damn, Solo:
            If you touch it, you'll fry 😆

            I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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            • brodieB Offline
              brodie
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              Solo, that's a great setup for $1000! Do you have any recommendations on monitors?

              -Brodie

              steelblue http://www.steelbluellc.com

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              • soloS Offline
                solo
                last edited by

                http://www.walmart.com/ip/Vizio-E420VO/13904834

                Yup, use HDMI to DVI and you got yourself a huge high def screen.

                http://www.solos-art.com

                If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                • brodieB Offline
                  brodie
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                  Ha, I've always wanted to try that at home but I've been too lazy to take the computer to the tv or vice versa.

                  It reminds me of a photo I found on stumbleupon and can't seem to find again. It was of a bunch of cubicles in an office, one of which had a 42" tv in place of a monitor. The caption said that it was a rotating monthly prize for the best salesman or something. It lasted a month and 3 days as the second person to get the honor said it was burning their eyes to have to stare at the 42" screen from about 2' away! 😆

                  -Brodie

                  steelblue http://www.steelbluellc.com

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                    d12dozr
                    last edited by

                    @solo said:

                    I recommend....

                    CASE: Raidmax Monster All Aluminum Gaming Case with Advance Heat Management

                    DVD: 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive

                    CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-950 3.06 GHz 8M Intel Smart Cache LGA1366

                    FAN: NZXT Liquid Cooling System 120MM Radiator & Fan (Enhanced Cooling Performance + Extreme Silent at 20dBA)

                    HDD: 1TB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HD

                    MEMORY: 12GB (4GBx3) DDR3/1600MHz Triple Channel Memory Module Corsair

                    MOTHERBOARD: Asus P6T SE Intel X58 Chipset CrossFireX Mainboard Triple-Channel DDR3/1600 SATA RAID w/ eSATA,GbLAN,USB2.0,IEEE1394a,&7.1Audio

                    POWERSUPPLY: 700 Watts - Standard Case Power Supply

                    SERVICE: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT

                    SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO

                    Approx $1000

                    Pete, do you have a link for that setup, or is it build-it-yourself deal?

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                    • soloS Offline
                      solo
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                      Sure, but promise to mention me (Pete Stoppel) so I can squeeze them for a deal on my next rig.

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                      (www.cyberpowerpc.com)

                      I get all my rigs from these guys, great machines, well built.

                      http://www.solos-art.com

                      If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                        d12dozr
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                        Thanks for that link Pete, those are amazing prices. If I gt one from there, I'll definitely tell them you sent me 👍

                        I really want a laptop though, preferably one that will work with Thea...any recommendations? Cyber Power's laptops seem extraordinary pricey...

                        3D Printing with SketchUp Book
                        http://goo.gl/f7ooYh

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                        • soloS Offline
                          solo
                          last edited by

                          Yeah, cyberpower is great for monster desktops, not lappy's.

                          Tried http://www.newegg ? http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100006740+600003982+600004804&QksAutoSuggestion=&ShowDeactivatedMark=False&Configurator=&IsNodeId=1&Subcategory=32&description=&Ntk=&CFG=&SpeTabStoreType=&srchInDesc=

                          http://www.solos-art.com

                          If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                            d12dozr
                            last edited by

                            I'll try NewEgg...thanks for the help 😄

                            3D Printing with SketchUp Book
                            http://goo.gl/f7ooYh

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                            • jeff hammondJ Offline
                              jeff hammond
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                              @solo said:

                              Approx $1000

                              why spend only a thousand when you could easily configure one of these bad boys to well over $6g?
                              😄

                              dotdotdot

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                              • soloS Offline
                                solo
                                last edited by

                                6 g's for only 12 cores, hmm, I'd rather network 6 of those machines together and get 48 render threads...zoom, zoom, zoom. 💚

                                http://www.solos-art.com

                                If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                                • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                  jeff hammond
                                  last edited by

                                  ha, yeah.. i'm used to apple tax but man, that thing is crazy priced.. borderline ridiculous

                                  dotdotdot

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                                    dsarchs
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                                    If you can wait a couple months it might be worth doing so to get the upcoming intel processor (Sandy Bridge) which looks considerably faster than current gen.

                                    From the referenced article:

                                    @unknownuser said:

                                    Clock for clock however, Sandy Bridge seems to offer a 10% increase in performance. Keep in mind that this analysis was done without a functional turbo mode, so the shipping Sandy Bridge CPUs should be even quicker. I'd estimate you can add another 3 - 7% to these numbers for the final chips.

                                    As for the graphics card (which I don't know how you can overlook a graphics card after you've seen GPU rendering examples -- including the free smallluxgpu) I would highly recommend the GTX 460 (around US $200/$230 for 796MB and 1000MB flavors) which is fast and relatively low noise/power.

                                    At least... this is the route I'm taking (soon).

                                    Knowledge is a polite word for dead but not buried imagination.

                                    -e.e.cummings

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                                      Scostumatu
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                                      Hi

                                      Thanks for all the replies. I have got a quote for a PC and would like your thoughts:

                                      **Intel Core i7 960 3.20Ghz LGA1366 CPU (is there much of a difference in performance with the 950?? There is a $300 price difference.

                                      **Noctua NH-U12P-SE2 Performance CPU Cooler (Universal)

                                      **ASUS P6X58D-PREMIUM X58 LGA1366 DDR3 Motherboard

                                      **Patriot Viper-Sector7 12GB Kit(4Gx3) DDR3 1600 (For Intel 1366 Pin Only)

                                      **Seagate 3.5" SATA 500GB HDD (to run OS and applications)

                                      **WD SATA 2TB HDD (to store all my other stuff)

                                      **ASUS 1280M GTX470 PCI-E VGA Card (Graphic Card - is this a good one? Its a bit expensive and would settle for soemthing less if there wasnt too much of a difference in speed)

                                      **Antec Sonata III Case

                                      **Antec TruePower TP-750Watt power supply

                                      **Samsung 21.5" BX2240 5ms LED Monitor

                                      **Windows 7 (does windows 7 work well with SU and Vray????)

                                      What do you think? too much or too little?

                                      I was quoted just under $3,000

                                      Thanks again

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                                      • brodieB Offline
                                        brodie
                                        last edited by

                                        I'd say it's not worth $2,000 more than Pete's setup. Or $1,750 since Pete didn't include a monitor.

                                        The i7 950 is 3.06 ghz rather than the 960's 3.20 ghz. $300 is a good chunk of change and that's not a huge improvement but if you're going to spend money anywhere you should be spending it in the CPU so I don't think it would be a foolish move in my opinion if it's in your budget.

                                        Performance CPU cooler? Glancing at a photo online it looks to be a mega big air cooler. I don't know how much they're charging you but unless you're planning to overclock your cpu it strikes me as possible overkill.

                                        Good idea to do your OS and data on different drives. If you can fit another HD in there, you may consider doing 2 1tb drives for storage unless you know you're going to need the full 2tb. That way you could mirror the drives in case one goes out (careful though the drives have to match exactly so if one goes out you'll have to buy the exact same hd to replace it with). Just something to consider.

                                        I'm a bit out of date on graphics cards but glancing at nvidias website the gtx470 looks to be the 2nd best you can get without going to a workstation card. Probably overkill in my opinion. That's a lot of card just for SU. It might help your modeling a bit but probably not noticeably over a card that's a couple steps down. I'd rather spend my money on a second monitor (foreshadowing 😄 ).

                                        Monitor looks good but a $3,000 modeling/rendering computer with only 1 monitor is a good sign that some money is being wasted somewhere. You'll really appreciate having that second monitor and getting those SU menus out of your way.

                                        I don't know about working w/ SU/Vray but Win 7 has been a vast improvement over Vista for me and anyone I've talked to. It's memory management is way better and has been working really well for me.

                                        -Brodie

                                        steelblue http://www.steelbluellc.com

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                                          dsarchs
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                                          Are you willing to build this yourself or how much choice do you have in deciding which parts you get?

                                          About the CPU, here is a comparison of the i7 965 extreme and the 950 (I couldn't find the 960 but assume the 965 should be better) and there isn't much of a gap between the two. If it's much of a price increase I'd say you'd get more for your money elsewhere.
                                          Incidentally, that is a good place to compare different CPUs and GPUs.

                                          For the case, there are better options. If you want a nice case (good looks, noise reduction, and good ventilation) the Antec P183 would be my choice. If you want something cheaper, but still pretty nice (good ventilation, slightly cheaper build) the Antec 300 illusion would be another way to go (personally, I would cut the wire to the blue lights as they look a little 'gamer' to me -- aside from that it's a pretty clean looking case). The Sonata seems a little generic with no real functional advantages.

                                          For the graphics card, the 470 is a very good card, but also very loud and runs very hot. The 460 is not much of a drop in performance but does much better than the 470 for heat and noise. If you need more power down the road, add a second (just make sure you get a motherboard that supports this if you think you might want to do that at some point) and 2 460's beat a 480 by about 25% on average (see my previous post).

                                          For storage the Samsung Spinpoint F3 seems to be the way to go (for speed, at least).

                                          As far as CPU cooling -- I think this is a good idea. If you're investing thousands on a system spend 30 bucks and get a quality aftermarket cooler. If you ever want to overclock -- great! but even if you don't the 1366 chipset runs hot and it can only help the lifespan of the system to get one. The Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus seems to be the best for price/performance (at $30) but most any cooler should be better than the stock cooler. Here's a list comparing various coolers -- this is based around the 1156 chipset but most of these (the 212, specifically) will work for 1366 as well.

                                          In case someone's not familiar with them:
                                          1366 = i7 9xx family of processors
                                          1156 = i5 7/8xx family

                                          I hope I'm not overwhelming you with information but this is something I've been researching for a while for when I can afford a system.

                                          Knowledge is a polite word for dead but not buried imagination.

                                          -e.e.cummings

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