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    • TIGT Offline
      TIG Moderator
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      FollowMe and FMAK both require the face squarely on the end of the path - 1001-extrude and EEbyFace do not - also EEbyFace works on several unconnected or branching paths - unlike FollowMe etc...
      I don't know 1001-extrude - I think it can work with a 'flat' face and place it to suit - have you tried welding the edges into a curve as the path ?
      Incidentally my PipeAlongPath or TubeAlongPath scripts would also give you a similar result...

      TIG

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        xrok1
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        i found the 1001bit tools guy doesn't give much support. 😒

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        • pilouP Offline
          pilou
          last edited by

          Seems 1001 tools is not appropriated for the Breuer path!
          There are "torsions" inside!
          It's specifed on the icone tooltip 'without torsion' πŸ˜‰
          breuer.jpg

          Frenchy Pilou
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          • T Offline
            Tim Danaher
            last edited by

            This is becoming a 'mare...

            All I want is a robust, no-hassle extrude-along-path solution for my students... FMAK works, but doesn't smooth the resulting extrusion and 1001bit...

            TIG, will try your suggestions... how do I weld the path? Is that a plug-in?

            Frenchy... when you say 'torsions'... Have I drawn the various curves in different directions? (Tooltips? I don't got no stinkin' tooltips...)

            xrok... indeed... 😠

            Cheers,

            Tim

            http://vizarch.blogspot.com

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            • TIGT Offline
              TIG Moderator
              last edited by

              My Extrusion Tool set is perhaps too complex for this - find my 'PipeAlongPath.rb' [crai etc] and use that - you don't need a 'welded' path for that tool - just continuous edges/arcs selected - it will make a smooth welded path for you.

              I can't believe you survive without 'weld.rb' - get it free from 'Smustard' - select any joined up lines/arcs etc and it makes a polyline curve from them - useful for many of my Extrusion tools that need you to select curves, and also generally making polylines etc for extruding smoothly...
              πŸ˜„

              TIG

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              • pilouP Offline
                pilou
                last edited by

                @ TIM : This is more clear? πŸ˜„
                Sorry it's in French, but your tooltip is in English β˜€

                I suppose "no torsion" is meaning without direction changment between different plans πŸ˜‰

                PS I can't believe that you don't know the Plug Weld πŸ˜„
                Use SU without Plugs is today a sort of task! πŸ’š

                tooltips.jpg

                Frenchy Pilou
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                • pilouP Offline
                  pilou
                  last edited by

                  And another thing : calculate of the object result can take some time : so be patient!
                  You can make your Breuer chair with this 1001 function but you must make it in several part!
                  So I believe that is not the good function for that!
                  torsion.jpg

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                    Tim Danaher
                    last edited by

                    OK, cheers, TIG...

                    Frenchy... mais j'ai pas de tooltips (sous MacOS X)... pas du tout!

                    Cheers,

                    Tim

                    http://vizarch.blogspot.com

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                      xrok1
                      last edited by

                      i tried it by welding the path first, doesn't work!

                      @unknownuser said:

                      All I want is a robust, no-hassle extrude-along-path solution for my students...

                      i think tig's extrude edges by face will be hard to beat. (even though his extrude tools are all named weird πŸ˜† ) should be extrude face along edge... but we can live with it cause they're so damn great! 😍
                      i usually spend more time trying to figure out the code of what each name means than using the tool 😳

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                      • pilouP Offline
                        pilou
                        last edited by

                        @unknownuser said:

                        extrude tools are all named weird

                        yes πŸ˜„

                        Frenchy Pilou
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                        • pilouP Offline
                          pilou
                          last edited by

                          @ Tim
                          You see that the calculate is beginning when you can't move the blue cross with the mouse after the click on the beginning curve!

                          That is not a "torsion" here πŸ˜‰

                          PS Sorry I have not MAC and absolut know how it works πŸ’š
                          But you must have the Help line!
                          torsion2.jpg

                          Frenchy Pilou
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                          • TIGT Offline
                            TIG Moderator
                            last edited by

                            😲

                            TIG

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                              xrok1
                              last edited by

                              don't pretend you didn't know 🀣

                              β€œThere are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.”

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                              • TIGT Offline
                                TIG Moderator
                                last edited by

                                πŸ˜‰
                                The tools
                                "Extrude"
                                "Edges"
                                "by"
                                "something"

                                Edges
                                Face
                                Faces
                                Lathe
                                Loft
                                Rails
                                RailsByFace
                                RailsToLattice
                                Vector

                                As they are a 'set' I have kept the naming quite consistent...

                                An 'Edge' is a 'Line' in SUp-speak
                                I know that often these tools need 'Curves', but then these are made from 'Edges'...
                                The first combines edges with edges
                                The next extrudes a face along edges
                                The next uses faces as the basis of the extrusion
                                The next 'lathes' the edges' curve
                                The next 'lofts' the edge-sets' curves
                                The next uses 2/3/4 edge curves as profiles/rails
                                The next extrudes a face along ditto
                                The next makes a lattice using ditto
                                The next extrudes the edges along a vector

                                How better to describe them ???
                                πŸ˜’

                                TIG

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                                • Rich O BrienR Online
                                  Rich O Brien Moderator
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                                  They make perfect sense to me!

                                  For example, i wish I had a plugin which would allow me to extrude an edge rather than a face along a curved rail. Now that'd be cool!

                                  A sort of Extrude Edge by Rail tool! Hey I could even chose to extrude faces too? Or maybe a lathe like action around an axis?

                                  Damn that'd cool 😎

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                                    xrok1
                                    last edited by

                                    @unknownuser said:

                                    An 'Edge' is a 'Line' in SUp-speak
                                    I know that often these tools need 'Curves', but then these are made from 'Edges'...
                                    The first combines edges with edges
                                    The next extrudes a face along edges
                                    The next uses faces as the basis of the extrusion
                                    The next 'lathes' the edges' curve
                                    The next 'lofts' the edge-sets' curves
                                    The next uses 2/3/4 edge curves as profiles/rails
                                    The next extrudes a face along replace ditto πŸ˜‰ profiles/rails
                                    The next makes a lattice using replace ditto πŸ˜‰ profiles/rails
                                    The next extrudes the edges along a vector

                                    i think you answered your own question. i think maybe its the word by or something in all the names i'm not sure but it just always makes me pause and wonder WTF it does. i think your above discriptions would make much better names. πŸ˜„ but its only my opinion and i by no means disrespect you or your abilities to please us all with your work. πŸ˜„

                                    β€œThere are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.”

                                    http://www.Twilightrender.com try it!

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                                    • TIGT Offline
                                      TIG Moderator
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                                      πŸ˜„
                                      A rose by any other name would smell as sweet...

                                      TIG

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                                        xrok1
                                        last edited by

                                        TIG, thank god for the toolbar with the little pictures or i'd be totally lost. 😳

                                        @unknownuser said:

                                        For example, i wish I had a plugin which would allow me to extrude an edge rather than a face along a curved rail. Now that'd be cool!

                                        you can! use extrude edges by rails. pick the edge then the same rail twice, then the same edge again!
                                        or extrude edges by edges.
                                        but if you understood the naming you'd know that. πŸ˜‰

                                        β€œThere are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.”

                                        http://www.Twilightrender.com try it!

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                                        • Rich O BrienR Online
                                          Rich O Brien Moderator
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                                          πŸ‘
                                          You saved me some clicks Rocky, but it looks like i fall into the third class 😲

                                          Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp πŸ“–

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                                            xrok1
                                            last edited by

                                            sorry TIG 🀣

                                            @unknownuser said:

                                            Or maybe a lathe like action around an axis?

                                            for this there's extrude edges by lathe. πŸ˜‰


                                            Capture1.JPG

                                            β€œThere are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.”

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