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    • D Offline
      driven
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      hi August,

      I think it's a brilliant concept that needs the models sitting in 3D warehouse to reach a wider audience.

      I downloaded the Vector Prehensor zip to have a look at doing this, but can't even find a viewer for the .prt files on a mac.

      If you or anyone else out there has the software capable of converting the files for sketchup usage that would be fantastic.

      I have contacted ResourceCad(.com) to see if they would do it for free, and they are willing to for a credit, but would prefer if the request came from a charitable body so they can write of the man-hours and costs if any.

      I'll try and make contact with openprostethics.org and see if they can help out on that front.

      In the meantime if we (the forum) could sort the files out ourselves I for one will give it a shot as I've spent a lot of my working life making things like this for films and telly, and have a couple of slightly unconventional ideas that might help.

      cheers

      john

      learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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        August
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        Hi John,

        I did some digging to see if I could find CadKey or PRT-import for Windows. While I was searching I saw a reference somewhere to Solid Edge reading CadKey, but I could not find that page again, so I downloaded and installed the free version of Solid Edge. (Whew, over 1G installation space needed!) No luck on importing PRT/CadKey and no reference to either in the doc. Oh well.

        Apparently, according some stuff I saw, there had at one time been a free version of CadKey available. Google found site descriptions saying they had it, but the ones I tried were dead links and I ran out of steam tonight.

        I'm interested in your "slightly unconventional ideas".

        Thanks,
        August

        “An idea, like a ghost, must be spoken to a little before it will explain itself.”
        [floatr:v1mcbde2]-- Charles Dickens[/floatr:v1mcbde2]

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          driven
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          hi August,

          I've done quite a bit of work utilising MigaMotors, but for some reason I took the YouTubes videos down, I'll resubmit one but here's a link to it on my gallery, the SU is a bit crude, I could probably do a bit better now, I'd only just started to use SU at that stage.

          I haven't had a chance to chase up openProsethics yet, but will try this evening, I'm in UK..

          john

          http://gallery.me.com/johnboundy#100077

          learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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            KXI System
            last edited by

            ok, thats just plain cool!

            Getting the perfect sig is hard...

            Google it!

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              driven
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              @kxi system said:

              ok, thats just plain cool!

              cheers, glad someone likes it,

              I posted it on another forum, but they're so tied up with traditional solutions for there mechanisms that they dismissed the concept out of hand, these motors only weigh 12.8 grms and deliver 11N of force at 12VDC and move 9 mm in 50 ms (up to 200 mm/s)

              I've just posted the the motor .skp on 3D WareHouse as I had one request, here's the link

              Error 404 (Not Found)!!1

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              (sketchup.google.com)

              in the meantime if anyone can convert the above mentioned files....

              john

              learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                Jim
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                I'm impressed - they appear to be low-cost, small, strong, and reliable actuators. There does seem to be some "recovery" time needed for the material to return to shape, in which case I assume it is a uni-directional power stroke?

                Hi

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                  driven
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                  @jim said:

                  "recovery" time needed for the material to return to shape

                  recovery time is inherent with the material and for the device in my movie, I would have extremely small flexible oil tubes on each stand of wire, which speeds up the return four-fold and multiple units with an over-lap in activation so as the second is pushing the filament thru the first during it's (1st) cooling cycle and the first is pulling the filament thru 2nd during it's cooling cycle, and on and on and on...

                  If a pair are used end on end, but opposed with centre off, you can achieve zero backlash, high torque, highly positional control.

                  have a look at http://www.migamotors.com/Downloads.html there are some interesting movies of actual mechanisms.

                  I've also designed (using SU + a lot of rubies, of course) a few different continuous rotary motors using these, the power to weight ratio is staggering.

                  john

                  learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                    driven
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                    @august said:

                    Hi John,I did some digging to see if I could find CadKey or PRT-import for Windows.
                    August

                    Hi August and anyone else watching this topic,

                    happy new year,

                    I was just having another look at the files and notice there's a windows CADKEY to DXF convertor enclosed, called ALCADMY.EXC, I don't know if you can run that, I can't on the mac and have no PC access at all, 4 Mac family I'm afraid.

                    john

                    learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                      August
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                      @driven said:

                      I was just having another look at the files and notice there's a windows CADKEY to DXF convertor enclosed, called ALCADMY.EXC, I don't know if you can run that, I can't on the mac ...

                      Hi John,

                      It's hard to believe over a month has gone by and I've kept this page open in my browser all this time. Yes, I have WinXPsp2, so there's a good chance that EXE file will run. I've been meaning to follow up on that, but ... (Life is what happens when you're making other plans.)

                      I'll be out of town for a week, but hopefully when I get back I'll be able to try this out.

                      August

                      “An idea, like a ghost, must be spoken to a little before it will explain itself.”
                      [floatr:v1mcbde2]-- Charles Dickens[/floatr:v1mcbde2]

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                        driven
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                        been a bit distracted myself, let me know how get on, maybe we can put together a package for the community at large

                        john

                        learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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