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    • N Offline
      notareal
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      @pichuneke said:

      By the way, you have to visit this guy. I am his number one fan. πŸ˜„

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      He does a model in just one week. I enjoy rendering for fun his models with kerkythea, this is my last one based on his Trajan's Forum.


      http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/8312/trajano.th.jpg

      Thanks for the hint!

      Welcome to try [Thea Render](http://www.thearender.com/), Thea support | [kerkythea.net](http://www.kerkythea.net/) -team member

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      • thomthomT Offline
        thomthom
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        Wish I had a job of modelling ancient building like this.

        Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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        • GaieusG Offline
          Gaieus
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          Yesterday I visited the excavation site again and we finalised some pending details. They are about half an hour to model and then comes texturing (and rendering of course - I am very excited). There are some more "WIP images" here.

          Note that they are indeed WIP - mostly for testing reasons and such (therefore I didn't even post them here).

          Gai...

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          • Alan FraserA Offline
            Alan Fraser
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            @thomthom said:

            Wish I had a job of modelling ancient building like this.

            Yes, it must be fascinating work. Some of the detailing on that City Engine, Rome Reborn project is quite stunning. It's hard to believe that this is the detailing on a procedural temple.

            http://www.procedural.com/uploads/RTEmagicC_ionic01_small2.png.png

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            You could be entitled to compensation. Call the Pro Claimers now!

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            • GaieusG Offline
              Gaieus
              last edited by

              I am still working on this one. Here is another "WIP" render (Twilight)


              Basilica.jpg

              Gai...

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              • GaieusG Offline
                Gaieus
                last edited by

                Some of you may know that there is a similar (well, not too similar but at least example) of these lateRoman basilicas in Trier. So I decided to make a comparison between this and that.

                [flash=480,385:3ua27h08]http://www.youtube.com/v/YBF6rJIhTnQ&hl=en_US&fs=1&[/flash:3ua27h08]

                Gai...

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                • Rich O BrienR Offline
                  Rich O Brien Moderator
                  last edited by

                  Excellent stuff, i meant to reply to your Facebook post but absent mindedness prevailed πŸ˜•

                  Anyway thanks for sharing, looks like a labour of love πŸ‘

                  Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp πŸ“–

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                  • GaieusG Offline
                    Gaieus
                    last edited by

                    It was actually easier to match the two buildings than I first thought. I only had to fiddle with the watermark overly of the Trier basilica for a couple of minutes so I am quite happy with the result within this short time.

                    Gai...

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                    • ken28875K Offline
                      ken28875
                      last edited by

                      Nice work, Gaieus. πŸ‘ πŸ‘

                      Can't wait to see the finished model.

                      Take care,

                      _KN

                      Follow Your Dreams.

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                      • GaieusG Offline
                        Gaieus
                        last edited by

                        Playing around with section cut views (used TIG's SectionCut face and Whaat's Zorro2 to "really" cut my model - in fact twice so that I can show the plan in full but the building cut into half above).

                        Bazilika_Metszet0000.jpg
                        Here is another one in Parallel projection but I forgot to set the animation setting to "has animated objects" and that southern wall "remained" in the next scene, too, although in native SU I turned off that layer. I will update the post with another render (cooking/antialiasing ATM) with the view I really wanted.

                        Bazilika_Metszet0001_hatter.jpg
                        Both rendered in Twilight Render with Easy High+ settings, something like 81 sun radius (to wash the shadows a bit) "batch rendered" in animation mode.

                        And without that silly, southern wall

                        Bazilika_Metszet2_hatter.jpg

                        Gai...

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                        • Rich O BrienR Offline
                          Rich O Brien Moderator
                          last edited by

                          Great to see some updates and they look fantastic. Is this it for the Roman Basilica? Or am i mistaken?

                          For some reason i think i read somewhere it was finished? More internals....please πŸ‘

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                          • GaieusG Offline
                            Gaieus
                            last edited by

                            Well, some internals or interiors? πŸ˜„

                            http://lh4.ggpht.com/_zcvsIuYiVbo/S9alYXj0uxI/AAAAAAAAEBc/4xiT2dEjkl0/Bazilika_Kerkythea_11.jpg

                            http://lh3.ggpht.com/_zcvsIuYiVbo/S9alY3bZAfI/AAAAAAAAEBg/ddQOo7hNYas/Bazilika_Kerkythea_09.jpg

                            http://lh6.ggpht.com/_zcvsIuYiVbo/S9alZ_ZAvdI/AAAAAAAAEBk/8g0tu0HZey4/Bazilika_Kerkythea_10.jpg

                            http://lh6.ggpht.com/_zcvsIuYiVbo/S9alaVn-79I/AAAAAAAAEBo/yYYSIPSYcZQ/Bazilika_Kerkythea_08.jpg

                            These were first tweaked in Twilight but then exported to Kerkythea and final tweaks and render was made there.

                            As I wrote in the first post, it was excavated in 2008 and 2009 in the very centre (used to be forumof the Roman town) of my home town. It was indeed finished but of course, by now we only have the ruins that are not too much more than the foundations plus about a metre of the walls.

                            http://www.pecskep.hu/logic/dl/?dlid=4658&size=0

                            Here is another short video.

                            [flash=480,385:3c90mn80]http://www.youtube.com/v/QxiFQtdR344&hl=en_US&fs=1&[/flash:3c90mn80]

                            Gai...

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                            • honoluludesktopH Offline
                              honoluludesktop
                              last edited by

                              Gai, What really blows me away is the scale of these early buildings. Some of the rendered chandeliers(?) images from front to back are done in a way that I am not accustom to seeing. Is the image out of SU. or your choice of renderer?

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                              • GaieusG Offline
                                Gaieus
                                last edited by

                                Well, I did "tune up" field of view in a bit unnatural amount for the interiors just to see as much as possible. Certainly the exteriors do not need this dramatic FOV but indeed the size of the building is impressive. And the one in trier is even bigger (much taller and longer - the width is only about 3 metres wider).

                                Here are some exterior views (the "surroundings" will be modelled later within a much bigger project). For these, render settings were first started in Twilight then exported to Kerkythea (it can handle big amount of geometry easier while Twilight is limited to SU poly count handling and I am planning to use Kerkythea's instancing brush for some entourage later).

                                http://lh5.ggpht.com/_zcvsIuYiVbo/S9alPP2e3II/AAAAAAAAEA4/vrxdDX1D8pE/Bazilika_Kerkythea_01.jpg

                                http://lh5.ggpht.com/_zcvsIuYiVbo/S9alP09DL8I/AAAAAAAAEA8/bIYnN_antVE/Bazilika_Kerkythea_02.jpg

                                http://lh3.ggpht.com/_zcvsIuYiVbo/S9alRB3Q3yI/AAAAAAAAEBA/5EQV2z89oNo/Bazilika_Kerkythea_03.jpg

                                http://lh3.ggpht.com/_zcvsIuYiVbo/S9alSid2XDI/AAAAAAAAEBE/GhXTaf2qfAk/Bazilika_Kerkythea_04.jpg

                                http://lh4.ggpht.com/_zcvsIuYiVbo/S9alT21ecDI/AAAAAAAAEBM/XF1xNhsc9YU/Bazilika_Kerkythea_13.jpg

                                Maybe the specularity of the walls is a bit strong in this shot:

                                http://lh3.ggpht.com/_zcvsIuYiVbo/S9alVG3A7ZI/AAAAAAAAEBQ/L0i39Pa7PEs/Bazilika_Kerkythea_06.jpg

                                http://lh3.ggpht.com/_zcvsIuYiVbo/S9alWfaHR-I/AAAAAAAAEBU/gldqjS5QW_E/Bazilika_Kerkythea_12.jpg

                                And finally a shot in Parallel projection (this is pure Twilight output) for some architects we are writing an article for on a Hungarian site:

                                http://lh3.ggpht.com/_zcvsIuYiVbo/S9alXYwPjnI/AAAAAAAAEBY/043U7MNgfDs/Bazilika_Kerkythea_05.jpg

                                Gai...

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                                • honoluludesktopH Offline
                                  honoluludesktop
                                  last edited by

                                  Wow, those doors are something else. Door seems limited to humans, do you know what they were labeled in Latin? Thanks for the preview.

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                                  • thomthomT Offline
                                    thomthom
                                    last edited by

                                    I'd love to be working on reconstructing old buildings like this.

                                    Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                    List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                    • GaieusG Offline
                                      Gaieus
                                      last edited by

                                      @honoluludesktop said:

                                      ...do you know what they were labeled in Latin?

                                      Door (or rather a gate) is porta in Latin. For smaller doors/entrances they also used ostium or ianua (I guess this is where the name of the god "Ianus" comes from).

                                      @thomthom said:

                                      I'd love to be working on reconstructing old buildings like this.

                                      I also love it, Thom, you can imagine!
                                      But I do not wish such a "picky" client as this archaeologist I am currently working with to anyone.
                                      πŸ˜•
                                      I cannot tell details yet but it seems that the Museum want a reconstruction of all the Roman, all the Medieval and all the Ottoman eras of the town. Also the Roman cemetery will be done and it seems that I will have work (and income of course) for about a whole year from now.
                                      😍
                                      I cannot even undertake the rendering part so am planning to get the models (exteriors) rendered in Vue (guess who I would like to do this part).
                                      πŸ˜‰
                                      Animations, stills and interactive panorama virtual tours etc.

                                      Gai...

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                                      • thomthomT Offline
                                        thomthom
                                        last edited by

                                        Do archaeologists often to the modelling and viz work themselves? Or is it sent of to "hired hit-men"?

                                        Whenever I change jobs I will have to look for archaeology related work.

                                        Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                        • thomthomT Offline
                                          thomthom
                                          last edited by

                                          Will you be posting the progress of this big project then?

                                          Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                          • GaieusG Offline
                                            Gaieus
                                            last edited by

                                            @thomthom said:

                                            Do archaeologists often to the modelling and viz work themselves?

                                            Not really. I know a couple of them but generally they hire somebody. This is where I come into the picture as I am also an archaeologist and they tend to "trust" me much better than a "lay" outsider. Eventually I certainly model what they want (when there are alternatives) but at least I can come up with different solutions and ideas.

                                            @thomthom said:

                                            Will you be posting the progress of this big project then?

                                            I guess... Maybe it would be boring however...
                                            πŸ˜’

                                            Gai...

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