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      zhenghe
      last edited by

      Thanks all, that was fast!!
      I checked all the list you so kindly assembled, Gaieus, to no avail... And then I discovered the problem. I reproduced the situation with a cylinder, having no problems, but, when I tried an irregular object, composed of several arcs and straight sides that's when I run into trouble. I spotted the difference between the two when I toggled Hidden Geometry on and off. The edges that cause me trouble are the "hard" ones, those that come as a solid, non-dotted line when in Show Hidden Geometry mode.

      I hope I made myself clear. So, now, is there any way to push/pull a complex object, formed of several arcs or straight edges so that the extruded surface is "one curved surface" and not a lot of faces? Thanks again, in advance

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        numbthumb
        last edited by

        Seriously, if I had noticed that this was answered already, I wouldn´t risk playing a wise guy here.
        I don˙t really understand what you mean. How about uploading a picture or a model so we both can learn something?

        Comfortably numb...

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          xrok1
          last edited by

          there is a plugin called jointpushpull that will let you pull curved faces.
          http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=180&t=6708&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=joint

          “There are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.”

          http://www.Twilightrender.com try it!

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          • GaieusG Offline
            Gaieus
            last edited by

            @zhenghe said:

            ...The edges that cause me trouble are the "hard" ones, those that come as a solid, non-dotted line when in Show Hidden Geometry mode...

            You can always soften any edge by first teriple clicking on ("raw" or "loose" geometry - thus selecting all of it) or by "simple" clicking on groups/components and then Right click > Soften/smooth edges > and by adjusting the slider in the dialog, get those "hard edges" disappear.

            Also, use the Eraser tool with the Ctrl key to soften edges (like with the Shift key to "simply" hide them)

            Gai...

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              xrok1
              last edited by

              @unknownuser said:

              Also, use the Eraser tool with the Ctrl key to soften edges (like with the Shift key to "simply" hide them)

              i always forget about that, need a SU tattoo on my arm with all the tricks 😆

              “There are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.”

              http://www.Twilightrender.com try it!

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                Gaieus
                last edited by

                Here is the "Quick reference card" (a one-page pdf manual) about all the tools and their mod keys for Windows and the Mac.

                Gai...

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                  xrok1
                  last edited by

                  it also tells you the modifier keys in the status bar when a tool is selected, after a while you forget to look though. 😆

                  “There are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.”

                  http://www.Twilightrender.com try it!

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                  • GaieusG Offline
                    Gaieus
                    last edited by

                    Yes, exactly.
                    😉

                    Gai...

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                      zhenghe
                      last edited by

                      Sorry for the delay, been with other things at work... I'm afraid I'm stuck with the same trouble, even now I'm done with hard edges and only have smooth ones. I thought I better attach the example of where I'm now. I have a curved surface but I cannot apply the texture image in one piece. Any thoughts on what the problem may be? I promise I applied the steps several times in the correct order... 😳


                      The file with the curved surface

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                      • GaieusG Offline
                        Gaieus
                        last edited by

                        Is this how you would like it to look?

                        If so, I did the positioning exactly like described above (stating at one end of the curve)

                        upload.jpg
                        Note that the image is not the best quality/resolution...


                        upload.skp

                        Gai...

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                          zhenghe
                          last edited by

                          Thanks, but in fact, it's the other way around... It's vynil sticked on a plastic surface all along. The problem is that now I cannot edit the "global" texture orientation. How did you did it?

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                            Gaieus
                            last edited by

                            This way then?

                            upload.jpg
                            (It's kind of hard to keep guessing...)

                            Note that you always have to start with scaling your imported image for further use.

                            Gai...

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                              zhenghe
                              last edited by

                              No, thanks a lot for the trouble you're getting in to, but it's not that way. I think the image is scaled allright. It's an image of 250 x 49 cm, that runs all along the curved surface. The motto "A Coruña", should be read only once, in horizontal, if you orbited around the element. I hope I made myself clear (my English is quite limited, too, I think it shows) this time. Please ask me to go into any further clarifications if needed. Thanks again

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                              • GaieusG Offline
                                Gaieus
                                last edited by

                                That surface is lomger than the image just running along once (unless you distort it considerably)

                                Here is one where it is horizontal:

                                upload.jpg
                                The length of that curved surface is 2372 mm while the height is 271. So what I did now was that I made a single plane with the exact dimensions like this, positioned the texture onto it so that it fits on it exactly (and doesn't repeat)

                                Now made this texture unique (right click menu again) and then appled it to the curved surface. Here is the result:

                                upload.jpg
                                And the skippy (if you don't use the original texture any more, you'd better delete it from the model so that it won't affect file size)


                                upload.jpg


                                upload.skp

                                Gai...

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                                  numbthumb
                                  last edited by

                                  OK Gaieus, I am obviously DUMBthumb, but could you please tell me the difference between what you´ve been so patiently doing here and this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHsRRLCAOm8 ?
                                  It´s not that I am pretending to be smart, I just don´t fully understand this.

                                  Comfortably numb...

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                                    Gaieus
                                    last edited by

                                    In that video, Aidan is "projecting" an image on that curved surface while I "wrapped" it around.

                                    The difference is mainly obvious in the result when you need to get the image around a very curvy surface as the projection method he uses there will distort the image when you get to the "side" of the surface (where the surface is already kind of parallel with the direction of the projection). In this case you need to wrap the image around rather than project it.

                                    Read about the differences at the bottom(ish) of this SU Guide article (this is the Windows verion but it's essentially the same with both versions):
                                    http://download.sketchup.com/sketchuphelp/gsu6_win/Content/D-Modification_Tools/ModTool-PositionTexture.htm

                                    Gai...

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                                      numbthumb
                                      last edited by

                                      OK, thanks for the explanation.

                                      Comfortably numb...

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                                      • GaieusG Offline
                                        Gaieus
                                        last edited by

                                        Unfortunately this "wrapping" method doesn't always work flawlessly. You apply the image on the very first facet (have hidden geometry ON) and position it to your needs.

                                        Now if you sample this positioned material, turn hidden geometry OFF and apply it on the curved surface, it should wrap around without any problem but that's not always the case.

                                        If it gets screwed, you need to turn hidden geometry on again and start sampling and painting the facets one by one hoping that after a while, when you already hate it enough and turn hidden geometry off again and try to apply the material to the rest of the surface, it will work. 😕

                                        Gai...

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                                          zhenghe
                                          last edited by

                                          Thanks a lot for the work, boys, and for your patience. I'll relate step-by-step my doings, so you could put your finger on my mistake:

                                          • In the upload.skp I uploaded previously, I created a flat plane with the exact measures the element should have, which are, according to my driving dimensions, 490,3 (the old measure was a mistake on my part, sorry) x 2372 mm. Then I created a unique texture from it (it gives me different measures for the size of the image in the unique texture, but I hope that's not the problem).
                                          • Then I scale the curve element to fit that dimensions.
                                          • Toggle on Hidden Geometry, select one face, apply the unique texture. Texture > Position (I do not just enter here, it may be relevant, as I have to reposition the image), and then I select with the dropper this applied texture. Toggle off Hidden Geometry, and apply the texture.

                                          My results are in the file, I'm afraid I made a mistake somewhere, but I can't find it... 😳


                                          upload3.skp

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                                          • numbthumbN Offline
                                            numbthumb
                                            last edited by

                                            Darn it, I would really like to see some kind of 3D mesh painting tool inside SketchUp...

                                            Comfortably numb...

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