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      FoXar
      last edited by

      Looking very nice, I've already been to the website earlier today and when I was at the downloads section I noticed there was no Mac version 😞
      Will this be coming soon or no..? As I'm looking forward to test this engine!

      Cheers,
      Roevens Johannes

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        tomsdesk
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        Kim, I've been looking for an inexpensive solution to a couple of rendering tasks (I really don't want to learn a PR renderer). I spent some time on your site this AM and a couple quick questions remain:

        How long in general do you have to let them cook to get rid of the grainy? How long did these take? (Really nice BTW)

        Can Twilight do quick and lovely clay renders (but with reflective windows) using some simple presets?

        Thanks, Tom.

        http://www.tomsdesk.moonfruit.com/
        2.5D Trees & Shrubs!

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          EDMON242004
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          These are really good renders, how about the rendering time?

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            Frederik
            last edited by

            A Mac version will come, although I'm not sure exactly when...
            Let me check and get back to you and others... πŸ˜‰

            @tomsdesk said:

            How long in general do you have to let them cook to get rid of the grainy? How long did these take?

            That's a tough question to answer... It depends on so many things...
            Output resolution, materials used, lights used in the scene, complexity of the scene etc., etc...

            Please note that Twilight render comes with both biased (photon mapping) presets, which are quite fast, as well as the more advanced unbiased presets (MLT, BiPT), which will take longer to render, but where the lightning will make them look more real...

            @tomsdesk said:

            Can Twilight do quick and lovely clay renders (but with reflective windows) using some simple presets?

            Yes... πŸ˜‰

            Go to the Twilight website... Download the demo version, check out the tutorials to get the basics and then test away... πŸ˜„

            @edmon242004 said:

            These are really good renders, how about the rendering time?

            Thanks...

            For this scene it was a couple of hours on a single core computer... πŸ˜‰

            Please go see the Twilight Forum and check out the Gallery section, where we've posted several renders with information on time etc... πŸ˜‰

            Cheers
            Kim Frederik

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              FoXar
              last edited by

              @frederik said:

              A Mac version will come, although I'm not sure exactly when...
              Let me check and get back to you and others... πŸ˜‰

              Okay great, I'll be waiting! ;D

              Cheers,
              Roevens Johannes

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                Edson
                last edited by

                hi kim,

                this is a very welcome newcomer. it looks very good. from what i have seen it is kerkythea turned into a sketchup plugin. or am i wrong?

                as usual, the mac version lags behind. i do hope a mac version is released soon.

                edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre β€’ brasil
                http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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                  dylan
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                  I am really excited about this, just a real shame there is no mac version.
                  I will download and try out on my work pc.

                  http://dmdarchitecture.co.uk/

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                    EarthMover
                    last edited by

                    Been playing with the demo and I like it a lot. A good solution for a good price. Should win a lot of fans very quickly.

                    3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
                    Guide Tool at Winning With Sketchup
                    Content Creator at Skapeup

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                      solo
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                      I'm currently looking for an interior render solution (I have exteriors well covered), definitely gonna give this a go, hopefully it will solve my needs.

                      http://www.solos-art.com

                      If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                        Fletch
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                        @edson said:

                        ... from what i have seen it is kerkythea turned into a sketchup plugin. or am i wrong?

                        well, our dream was to have the power of KT inside of SketchUp, but then to fix what we found difficult with KT. So, to keep all positives, lose any negatives (like having to re-export and re-merge model geometry any time we change our model.) πŸ˜‰

                        The main bottleneck for KT users, new or old, was the creation of good materials. Turning your SketchUp materials into physically accurate high quality materials is simple now with Twilight.

                        Check out the video tutorials. (Intermediate Tutorial #1 is specifically on materials, as well as the first Getting Started Tutorial.)

                        The other main problem for most new users of KT was the choice of the right rendering settings. There is an "easy" set of render settings to choose "out of the box" with Twilight, and should serve well in almost all architectural-type rendering situations.

                        The main annoyance was re-exporting models after changes, and there is no more exporting with Twilight.
                        Setting up lights used to be a bit more difficult, now lighting, even IES lights, is fun in Twilight.

                        Fletch
                        Twilight Render Cross-platform Plugin for SketchUp on PC or Mac

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                          Rob D
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                          Fletch / Kim, this looks great. Fine idea. Nice price. Only one question.... does this mean you're parting ways from Giannis and Thea Render?

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                            Frederik
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                            @rob d said:

                            does this mean you're parting ways from Giannis and Thea Render?

                            Most definitely not... πŸ˜‰

                            Cheers
                            Kim Frederik

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                              Rob D
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                              That's what I wanted to hear! Thanks Kim 😍

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                                Edson
                                last edited by

                                kim and fletch,

                                your comments and descriptions left me with a watering mouth, not to mention a kind of murderous envy of all of you windows users.

                                regards,

                                edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre β€’ brasil
                                http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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                                  olishea
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                                  very nice

                                  oli

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                                    david57
                                    last edited by

                                    Nice work. Colors on the second render looks better and makes room look brighter.
                                    Its been quiet here and i was wondering where everybody went. No body told me.

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                                      Fletch
                                      last edited by

                                      @rob d said:

                                      ... does this mean you're parting ways from Giannis

                                      πŸ˜†
                                      without Giannis, Twilight Render would not be possible. πŸ˜‰

                                      ps - Frederik, love your renders, man! Keep 'em coming!

                                      Fletch
                                      Twilight Render Cross-platform Plugin for SketchUp on PC or Mac

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                                        dylan
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                                        @edson said:

                                        kim and fletch,

                                        your comments and descriptions left me with a watering mouth, not to mention a kind of murderous envy of all of you windows users.

                                        Edson, I am running it on a mac using VMware Fusion and all seems fine.

                                        I have to say I am loving this software!!! Great job guys πŸ‘

                                        http://dmdarchitecture.co.uk/

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                                        • FrederikF Offline
                                          Frederik
                                          last edited by

                                          Cheers, Dylan... πŸ˜„
                                          Much appreciated and encouraging... πŸ‘

                                          Credit for this application should really go to Chris (aka Avariant) and Fletch...
                                          I'm just part of the beta- and support team... πŸ˜‰

                                          Cheers
                                          Kim Frederik

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                                            Gaieus
                                            last edited by

                                            Tom,

                                            As for clay renders (as I was also interested in this part), just made a quick render at 1024 pixels width. I used the highest preset with soft shadows and came out in 3:47 minutes nicely.

                                            ClayFortress.png
                                            The only material I "kept" was the water surface (aka "shiny window" if you like, in architectural renders) but also kept the cheesy SU water material so obviously it doesn't look very good.

                                            Then I tried with a much more reflective water (plus more bumps) and this one came out in 3:55

                                            ClayFortress2.png
                                            Still the native SU sky makes the water a bit too "bluish" - I guess I need some sky backgrounds to make it nicer looking (also experimenting more with water surfaces)

                                            (Model is a reconstruction of a 4th century Roman Fortress on the Danubian frontier excavated by Zsolt MrΓ‘v of the National Museum of Hungary and modelled by GΓ‘bor OrbΓ‘n aka "Kephalos")


                                            Edit: I used only one core on my machine for both images.

                                            Gai...

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