The Pantheon, Rome (WIP)

jopsa2

Thanks for the compliments guys!
Unfortunately I'm absolutely OCD about detail so it's going really slowly. Also trying to keep it as clean as possible, so when it's more advanced I won't go crazy.

artysmedia, I'm making it as componentized as I can, so I can afford giving it some detail without killing my processor. Here are some numbers:

181 component instances (for 13 component definitions)
Edges 838305
Faces 333109

(por cierto ya tienes otro español en el foro!)

this is all I've done for today, not much, it's harder than I thought.

artysmedia

@jopsa2 said:

Edges 838305

Y crees que te queda mucho? Muchos edges me parecen ya a mí...

@jopsa2 said:

(por cierto ya tienes otro español en el foro!)

Hello, españolito! I'm from San Sebastián, and you?

jopsa2

@artysmedia said:

Y crees que te queda mucho? Muchos edges me parecen ya a mí...

Tu crees? De momento no se queja el ordenador, son solo 13 megs.
I think I'm around half done, considering I only wanted to do the interior (plus texturing and rendering).
13Mb doesn't seem that bad, I've done worse

Soy de Madrid por cierto!

artysmedia

@jopsa2 said:

I think I'm around half done, considering I only wanted to do the interior (plus texturing and rendering).

Ahhh!

I do not pay attention to how much memory occupies my files

When my model arrives at 1.4 million edges is when I begin to be nervous. It's at this time when i start to put the last details.

@jopsa2 said:

Soy de Madrid por cierto!

Pues tienes ahí un buen cacerolo para hacer el cocidito madrileño!

jopsa2

The going is slow, especially since I spent yesterday outside in the sun. Still, I consider I've finished the middle segment and should start with the bottom (ie. the crazy Corinthian columns)
I like how it's starting to look like a monumental space, but still don't know why light is seeping in. I'll have to work around that.

thanks everyone for your comments and critiques!

andeciuala

thats very good job!!! thanks for sharing the proccesses.

massimo

Nice job indeed! For this kind of work this plugin for photoshop is a must.
http://amicoperry.altervista.org/luce/index.html
It's a volumetric light generator that works on images.
Here is a quick try i made with your last image.

jopsa2

@massimo said:

Here is a quick try i made with your last image.

That looks awesome! thanks massimo, I was wondering how to create the "God-ray," and that's perfect

pichuneke

¡Que me dices! Otro español y con uno de los proyectos que me gustaría hacer si tuviera vidas suficientes

Well, let's start to speak in english. jopsa2, I have a neverending model of the roman theatre of Cartago Nova that you can see here:

http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=81&t=8057

I really like your textures. A lot...

And the level of detail that you are reaching, is the level of detail I would like to reach one day with my theatre. I can't model it now, I have not time.

Are you considering to put inside the "squares" of the ceiling (I don't know the english name, the spanish one is "casetón") the lost ornaments of bronze?

Puma

Looks really nice, I hope you get the lighting well at the rendering part. A month ago I was on a schooltrip to Rome and there was this American man at the entrance asking someone who worked at the Pantheon: "Where's the pantheon?" while he was standing inside the Pantheon for God's sake. We laughed to death...

How do you make those highly detailed models? I got a pretty good, recent PC but when I'm modeling big and detailed things, SketchUp is really slow..

jopsa2

@pichuneke said:

I really like your textures. A lot...

jaja hola pichuneke! I'm not that happy with the textures myself, it's something that really needs work IMO. Still, I'm happy to share my source, http://www.cgtextures.com, there's plenty of marble under the "Stone" subsection. Not tileable sadly, which is the root of my unhappiness right now.

Your model looks very impressive! I'm curious about your corinthian columns, they look pretty good, any tips? I'm currently modelling them in my model and it's killing me.

In my model I've decided to go for the most contemporary look, since it's what all my source images are of, and because going for the original Roman construction would mean re-doing everything from the dome down

@puma said:

How do you make those highly detailed models? I got a pretty good, recent PC but when I'm modeling big and detailed things, SketchUp is really slow..

From my experience, Sketchup can work with pretty big models even with slow computers, it's just a matter of keeping the model clean and organised. Components are the key, anything that's repeated more than once, I make a component, and then I can give it as much detail as is needed. Also when you reach the point where the computer starts misbehaving, stick whatever you don't need in a different layer and switch it off!

jopsa2

Also, a quick post before I leave for my first day of work experience (nerves!!!).
I'm not 100% sure about these, but they'll have to do for the moment. I believe my problem is that I don't fully understand the composition of the capital. There seem to be several rows of leaves, but I don't know how to give that feeling of depth the real ones give

pichuneke

You have a very advanced chorintian capital.

The only thing you must do is what I did with mine: Make some holes The problem is that my model is very heavy.

Alternatively you can use a texture, or better: with the photo of the real capital, you must render the 3D capital with a Bump Mapping using that texture (the black holes are deeper), only Bump Mapping. For the texture of the 3D use a tileable white Marble (Carrara kind). You'll save A LOT of polygons. I don't know which software you use to render. I use Kerkythea (although is discontinued now), but I pretend to move to Luxrender in a future, through blender if they don't release a plugin for sketchup.

I make tileable marbles very fast with Gimp. I open the texture, then (SORRY for the english speakers, I have the spanish version) Filtros -> Mapas -> Crear sin Costuras. Very good results for rocks.

My capital took me a month to model, but with your squared capital you can make easily a cilindrical one, put the leaves into the right places.

And you can find some optimized columns in these models:

http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=a230dfe5cd05ef54919e912415da387a&prevstart=0

http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/search?uq=13768710844291476073&scoring=m

jopsa2

just a quick bump for this thread, because I promise I'm still working on it! Admittedly, I'm taking my time- I have loads of things going on right now- but it's coming along.

Here are the latest renders:

smokinbakin

Keep it up! Always excited to see more

chango70

Sheesh! I am amazed by the level of detail! I can't wait to see progress on this model. Keeps me inspired.

Gaieus

I definitely enjoy it. Very fine details, indeed (I can imagine it takes yourtime )

jopsa2

thanks for the great comments guys! I'm looking forward to finishing the modelling and start on making some renders.
just yesterday I closed the bottom of the model, thus making the oculus and the door the only two light sources. Instantly the renders have huge amounts of noise and it's nothing I've been able to fix using the camera parameters in vray. I'm sure there's some variable that needs to be touched, but it escapes me. Any tips?

Example:

jopsa2

Hello sketchucation!
Just finished modelling recently, and started on the texturing, so I decided to bump this up again.
I have some questions for the vray masters though! Image number 4 for example, took around 4 hours to render (at 1000x540 pixels, on my 2.4 quad core), and I'm getting worried about render time when I'm finished and want to do the final big render. What would you guys recommend without losing too much quality?

Last of the clay renders, after this I started adding materials. Obviously lots of post-pro (Noise is intentional, I may add )
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