Mac v Win
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I also hope it does also for the sake of Windows users that are stuck with this OS.
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I have both. I love the new I-MAC. It looks great. I set it to dual boot, which now defaults to XP.
I also bought the new mac key board and mouse for my PC. (LOL)I love the drag and drop interface of the MAC. Not many PC applications have even heard of this feature, yet. But, If you visit the MAC forum, I see they have problems similar to PC users.
I run simply to many applications that are PC based that I can't afford to give up. In the mean time the I-MAC just sits there looking pretty
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I too have an Imac, pretty thing actually, works great, all neat and clean except for desktop that seems to be the default place everything land on and can look clustered very fast. Anyhow, I hate SU on Mac, and well that's about all that works on Mac that I need for work, so the Mac is my oversized Ipod, great for streaming movies, watching youtube junk and for the kids to play with garage band. For the serious work I need a PC, preferably with XP and all my apps that make my living.
I really do like Mac's they are well built solid machines, but with only about 10% of market share they do not command the software support they would need for the masses to follow.
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I wish I could switch over to Bootcamp with 'click' instead of having to shut down first. Parallels and others don't run the graphics card at full power as far as I can see so they are not much use for the Win software that need to use on occasion.
There are reports that Mac running under Bootcamp can get more mpg than PCs.
http://www.mactech.com/articles/mactech/Vol.24/24.02/VirtualizationBenchmark/Of course a €15 USB Keyboard is useful also
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Our Macbook just had its harddrive fail.
It is being replaced on warranty. So much for reliable Apple hardware. Over the years (since the late 1980's) we've always had macs & pc's. In general the macs have been less reliable...I'm bummed out.
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Sorry to hear that Ross. However I think this is not the case in general.
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You know, Ross, that's because you live on an island and the dealers therefore think you are pirates to whom they can sell any cr@p.
BTW - long time no see. How's winter over there?
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Csaba, cut that out and leave poor Ross alone
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@mike lucey said:
xrok1,
One needs a reasonable understanding of a subject before you can debate it. Calling another's thoughts 'bullshit' does not cut it.
Mike (my REAL name
)i wasn't calling your thoughts bullshit anymore than you're calling me stupid, i was saying that corporate America having a "conscience" is bullshit. but i guess if you believe that.....
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Guys,
I recently did a quick comparison between a 17" Dell Precision M6400 and the New 17" MacBook Pro cost wise. The following is how it panned out.
Dell Precision M6400 Covet Mobile Workstation
2.4 Intel Core 2 Duo
4GB,1066MHz DDR3 SDRAM
1920x1200 17in Back-Lit Display
200GB SATA Hard Drive
8X DVD+/-RW Drive Slot Load with Optical Media Included
512MB NVIDIA Quadro FX2700M€ 2,499
MacBook Pro 17"
2.66 Intel Core 2 Duo
4GB 1066MHz DDR3 SDRAM - 2x2GB
1920 x 1200 Glossy Widescreen Display
320GB Drive
SuperDrive 8x (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)
NVIDIA GeForce 9400M + 9600M GT with 512MB
Built-in 8-hour battery
AppleCare Protection Plan for MacBook Pro (w/or w/o Display)€2,344
I also advise that more than likely the Dell would be worth €500ish after 2 years (id possible to sell) whereas the Mac could be worth in the region of €1,000 and probably a lot easier to sell to graphic / design students.
I think the demonstrates that Macs are not expensive when compared fairly.
Mike
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did you compare the value of being able to run 10x more apps. on the PC? Sorry, I couldn't resist, OK i'm done now. Can we move on to a less controversial discussion about religion or politics now? LOL
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xrok1,
I like nothing better than a good old debate. I can hit low at times but dont't take any notice.
On the matter of there being x10 the number of application available for PCs, I agree with you, there are. However I honestly feel that Mac Apps are of a higher quality. So its a matter of 'never mind the width, feel the quality!'
But again I can run all of these Win apps on the Mac under Bootcamp and probably faster than I can on a PC.
Ckeck!
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just the fact that mac has numerous windows emulators and windows has no mac emulators says it all.
check mate!
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What I don't get is if a Mac is better value for money (see above comparison) and it is bettr built, more stable, and can run widows apps better than windows using basecamp then why the heck do they only have 10% market share?
In my experiance they are well built, very appealing to look at, work great straight out of the box and have less malware. But for serious work with a zillion open apps, internet, network, usb gadgets all working at the same time it shows it's limits. As for malware, there is no point in writting and releasing malware for such a small market, hence they don't bother.
This is not a debate that can ever be won or lost, it's a matter of choice, I chose both, but prefer my PC's for work and Mac for play.
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well said, in a perfect world we'd only need to decide what color of computer we wanted, the rest would just work for us and we could concentrate on what we are doing not what we're doing it on.
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Jeff, This shows that it is possible to run OSX on a PC. There are ways to do this via software and by using a plug in card but both are illegal.
xrok1, I understand Windows does run natively under Bootcamp. The Apple OS is ONLY for Macs
Coming back to the point about Big Corporations not being honorable. I know this is the general perception and there is good reason for this. But
I believe Apple is an exception. They appear not to let greed govern their drive to make money. I think its more a case of producing quality products and letting the public decide. Although Ross may have a different opinion on this these days but I imagine he will forgive and forgetI strongly suggest that if you have not tried out a Mac you should give it a go. It does take a week to get used to the system but after a month most don't want to go back to PCs.
Pete, I think the reason Apple only have 10% of the market is because they decided not to open the doors to other companies to make clones. They did for a while but changed their minds as the clone quality was not the best. All PCs are IBM Clones. IBM opened the doors back in the 80s.
AutoCAD IMO did much the same thing in the CAD world when it allowed other companies make add ons. I think MicroCAD (now a little known program), a 3D application which was up and running at the same time as AutoCAD was spreading its wings would now be the No.1 in the world of draughting if it went 'open doors'.
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Alas, I agree that we're both right. And I concede that IF you could get the exact same progs for either system AND
I could get a mac for the same price as an hp, I'd probably be typing on a mac if for no other reason than they are damn cool. -
xrok1,
I think I getting close to converting you! I'll 'plant' one last seed. You mentioned the cost of a HP. Okay lets look at the cost of ownership over a 3 year period and see how it pans out.
What model HP would you consider going for?
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