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    Will "Change" really happen starting Tuesday?

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    • C Offline
      chango70
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      Yes everything so far points to a better if not great presidency. I never thought of going to the US to visit my friends because of the Bush administration. Now I really feel like it. I didn't even realise that was the case until Obama got elected.

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        bellwells
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        @chango70 said:

        ...I never thought of going to the US to visit my friends because of the Bush administration. Now I really feel like it. I didn't even realise that was the case until Obama got elected.

        My God!! This has to the bottom of the barrel when it comes to what's known as "Bush Derangement Syndrome". You got it bad, don't ya?

        Ron

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          chango70
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          The revulsion was so deep seated that I didn't even realise that was the reason...

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          • Mike LuceyM Offline
            Mike Lucey
            last edited by

            Here is an 'explorable' picture of the big day! http://gigapan.org/viewGigapanFullscreen.php?auth=033ef14483ee899496648c2b4b06233c Use the controls on the top left hand corner to get around


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              bellwells
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              Check out Bush. It looks like he's in the middle of pinching one off.

              Ron

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              • pbacotP Offline
                pbacot
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                Gee Chango,

                If you're just moldering away in London, DO COME OVER. Especially out west. There's a lot to the USA besides politics, and some of the people here are nice too!


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                  pbacot
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                  That's a cool picture (the explorable one). I don't know if it is the same process, but the CNN / Facebook people were showing a composite picture they were stitching (as they were submitted) from cellphone photographs sent in by the crowd. It looks like incredible technology and could eventually relate to placing models in more realistic virtual recreations of sites.

                  Thanks for posting.

                  I don't know how this thread can progress, because it depends on where you draw the line of real change, and for what issue. I am happy with the election, but I realize there are many things that the government will continue to do to disappoint me, because that's how it functions and these things just don't go away easily. We already know some of these intractable issue with our process. And things like the appointment of the Secretary of Agriculture show blatant support of the status quo. Other things are going to change, but slowly, because it is either imprudent to force the change or it requires a long process. On the other hand this administration will be appreciably different than the last. I think it would be disingenuous to say Obama will be "same as the old boss", and that it won't be interesting (at least).

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                  • Mike LuceyM Offline
                    Mike Lucey
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                    ..... what do you make of these three guys?


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                      solo
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                      They were stand ins for these guys that could'nt get past security.

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                      • Mike LuceyM Offline
                        Mike Lucey
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                        You could be right Pete 😄

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                          Gaieus
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                          @pbacot said:

                          ...There's a lot to the USA besides politics, and some of the people here are nice too!

                          I1m pretty sure about that, Peter. In fact I know that from experience.
                          Darn politics!

                          Gai...

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                            RickW
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                            @chango70 said:

                            Yes everything so far points to a better if not great presidency

                            If by "great presidency" you mean a total disaster for the US, then I agree with you completely.

                            @mike lucey said:

                            I think many more good changes for the better are under way and will follow...I think President Obama will continue to inspire not only US citizens but the rest of the World to get a handle on things before it is too late.

                            He only inspires me to gag.

                            I've been looking at the White House website and his agenda (an agenda he either hid or lied about during the campaign). He seems intent on overthrowing the will of the majority of Americans (expressed at the polls) on several issues, trampling states' rights on other issues, and generally expanding the power, scope, reach, and inefficiency of the federal bureaucracy, to our detriment. It's a far cry from the limited federal government set up by the Founders, a far cry from unifying, and completely uninspiring.

                            And let's not overlook his abysmal choice of nominee for head of the Treasury Department - a tax evader! It's like making an arsonist the Fire Chief.

                            Bread and circuses, anyone?

                            Oh, and Tomsdesk - if all you can reply with is a ROFLMAO icon, save yourself the trouble. I already know you disagree with me.

                            RickW
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                            • Mike LuceyM Offline
                              Mike Lucey
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                              .... well nobody is perfect and to get to where he is now, I imagine some deals had to be made, that's politics. For me Obama sounds credible and he seems to have certain amount of polish. We will have to give him a chance and see what happens. He has a difficult road ahead of him after his predecessor's eight year fiasco.

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                                tomsdesk
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                                @rickw said:

                                Oh, and Tomsdesk - if all you can reply with is a ROFLMAO icon, save yourself the trouble. I already know you disagree with me.
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                                  david_h
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                                  I liked that explorable image. If you zoom in close on the Chief Justice you can see him mouthing the words. . ."faithfully execute! faithfully execute! Dammit!" 💚

                                  If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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                                  • Mike LuceyM Offline
                                    Mike Lucey
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                                    Tom, you are a terrible man! 🤣

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                                      bellwells
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                                      Substituting "terrible" with assinine, childish or sophmoric would be more accurate.

                                      Ron

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                                        RickW
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                                        Well, Tom, it's clear you're not concerned with credibility, eloquence, or consideration. At least you were consistent in that regard, and succeeded once again in avoiding a meaningful contribution to the discussion. 😄

                                        RickW
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                                          tomsdesk
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                                          The fault there here goes to the "Rant-O-Meter" plugin I installed after the last round of futility: it goes off reminding me not respond sincerely to posts that have no substantive value. (Pity it sounds like a cat having trouble hacking up a large, slimy hairball: it works but is so really hard to stomach 8~))

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                                            RickW
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                                            Well, it's good to see you're branching out on your replies. The ROFLMAL icon was getting a bit old. 😄

                                            Of course, "substantive" is in the mind of the reader. When I thought we were honestly discussing different viewpoints, you apparently thought I was attacking you. From that viewpoint, I can understand why you respond the way you do.

                                            That's water under the bridge, but the point is this: I am glad to have your opinion on things if it rises above an icon. We may not agree, but it's the exercising of our freedom of speech that is paramount - the day may come when we long for the days when we could disagree peacably and publicly.

                                            RickW
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