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      ehaflett
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      To use a phrase that Ron used quite appropriately I'm quite frankly tired or 'Parsing the Bulls@#t'. Both sides are spewing it at a rate that is impossible to keep up with and make sense of. I keep reading these political threads (I still don't know why) because they make me feel even more justified in voting for Ralph Nader. He and his running mate Matt Gonzalez are NO BULLS@#T, no parsing required. They both have excellent records of public service and just plain honesty. You just don't hear the same type of stuff being kicked around about them as you do for the 2-headed monster currently fighting itself. They are wise and intelligent advocates of the people. I used to get fired up and angry and frustrated reading this stuff, not anymore. I'm voting the issues and voting my conscience and that feels good to me. It's nice because I don't have to watch the news or tap into the 24-hour news/spin cycle because they never talk about 3rd parties, and I don't have to watch the debates. It's pretty nice, I recommend it.

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        david_h
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        Ralph Nader. .unsafe at any speed. πŸ’š

        At least you know HE won't be spending $150,000 on a wardrobe. I don't think he's spent $1.50 on clothes since 1967!

        If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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          bellwells
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          @ehaflett said:

          ...I'm voting the issues and voting my conscience and that feels good to me. It's nice because I don't have to watch the news or tap into the 24-hour news/spin cycle because they never talk about 3rd parties, and I don't have to watch the debates. It's pretty nice, I recommend it.

          Thanks Eric, I needed this to further validate my voting for Bob Barr. I had suggested I might change my vote to McCain if I got mad enough at the liberal media. Thanks for bringing me back from the edge...

          Ron

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            bellwells
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            @unknownuser said:

            Has Obama ever commented on Echelon?

            What's Eschelon? I googled it and found some references to the wire tap portion of the Patriot Act. Is this what your referring to?

            Ron

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              Stinkie
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              An electronic world-wide data interception network. The UK participates in it as well, if I'm not wrong.

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                david.
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                Someone must have something to hide. And, we know who you are...

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                  david_h
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                  I'm part of it. I am watching you right now. πŸ˜†

                  Put your pants back on! EEWWW!

                  If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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                    watkins
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                    Echelon:

                    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHELON

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                      tomsdesk
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                      Hey, I think I finally found that "liberal press" some of you guys have been talking about. What a HOOT! Thanks for the heads up!

                      http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#27330537

                      http://www.tomsdesk.moonfruit.com/
                      2.5D Trees & Shrubs!

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                        solo
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                        Rachel Maddow, shes a tough one. I must admit she is way left of even the liberal media ... kinda like Hannity's opposite.

                        http://www.solos-art.com

                        If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                          bellwells
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                          @tomsdesk said:

                          Hey, I think I finally found that "liberal press" some of you guys have been talking about. What a HOOT! Thanks for the heads up!

                          http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#27330537

                          If you don't see the liberal media bias, you've got your head in the punch bowl. Of course, I wouldn't expect a lefty like you to see it. At least I admit that Rush and Hannity are right wing.

                          Do you see anyone in the main stream media who is left wing? If so, who?

                          Ron

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                            ehaflett
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                            @bellwells said:

                            @ehaflett said:

                            ...I'm voting the issues and voting my conscience and that feels good to me. It's nice because I don't have to watch the news or tap into the 24-hour news/spin cycle because they never talk about 3rd parties, and I don't have to watch the debates. It's pretty nice, I recommend it.

                            Thanks Eric, I needed this to further validate my voting for Bob Barr. I had suggested I might change my vote to McCain if I got mad enough at the liberal media. Thanks for bringing me back from the edge...

                            GREAT, glad I could help. Anyone else? Anyone?

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                              artwhore
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                              All of you guys spouting party lines are, at best, naive. I dont see how anybody can reach the age of 30, and still take either of the 2 major parties seriously.
                              I'd vote 3rd party in a heartbeat. We just need one without a looney at the wheel.
                              We need someone who is strong, yet sensitive to our needs.....someone like....TED NUGENT πŸ‘Ώ πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜†

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                                tomsdesk
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                                @solo said:

                                Rachel Maddow, shes a tough one. I must admit she is way left of even the liberal media ... kinda like Hannity's opposite.

                                Yeah, but at least her rantings are based in fact rather than conjecture. Nonetheless, I don't consider MSNBC TV or Fox News "the press" or "news media"...it's commentary at best and therefore inherently biased.

                                http://www.tomsdesk.moonfruit.com/
                                2.5D Trees & Shrubs!

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                                  bellwells
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                                  For a guy who doesn't consider MSNBC to be "the press" or "news media" you sure quote them alot. LOL.

                                  Ron

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                                    tomsdesk
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                                    @tomsdesk said:

                                    ...MSNBC TV...

                                    http://www.tomsdesk.moonfruit.com/
                                    2.5D Trees & Shrubs!

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                                      solo
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                                      OOOOOH! SLAM.

                                      [flash=425,344:35qzuh0y]http://www.youtube.com/v/5eUz13-pmTY&eurl=http://features.csmonitor.com/politics/2008/10/29/obama-rips-sarah-palin-in-new-campaign-ad/[/flash:35qzuh0y]

                                      The first AD aimed at McCain using Palin .... double SLAM.

                                      http://www.solos-art.com

                                      If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                                        chango70
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                                        🀣 yeah, slam and dunk!

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                                          bellwells
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                                          Good ad...effective and clever.

                                          Ron

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                                            chango70
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                                            I Seriously can't read website that can't afford a decent web designer. OMG it hurts my eyes.

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