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      Wacov
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      When I make very complex models, objects in the frozen state behave very strangely... they only move while they are colliding with an unfrozen, non-static object, or after they have been clicked. Does anyone else have this problem? Can it be fixed?

      http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/cldetails?mid=3096a836877fb9af6cd8ad826e9017b8&prevstart=0

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        CPhillips
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        Dunno. Can you post a model that shows the bug?

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          Wacov
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          Uh.. well, my driving game on the 3D warehouse has it... at least for me. I haven't heard anything about the bug in the reviews, but here's a link:http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=935cd6533bf5103b75d604ebf734887e

          http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/cldetails?mid=3096a836877fb9af6cd8ad826e9017b8&prevstart=0

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            CPhillips
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            As far as I can tell it works ok. Where do you see a problem?

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              Wacov
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              When the car drives into the flags, they are pushed, but remain frozen in mid air afterwards. Similar thing happens with the other frozen objects in the level. I'm using vista ultimate x64, maybe that has something to do with it?

              http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/cldetails?mid=3096a836877fb9af6cd8ad826e9017b8&prevstart=0

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                CPhillips
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                Hmm. I dont see that problem. I am not sure what could be causing it, but I doubt it is the x64.

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                  Wacov
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                  Ummm... I also tend to get convex hulls falling through the floor when models get complex. Ever heard of that?

                  http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/cldetails?mid=3096a836877fb9af6cd8ad826e9017b8&prevstart=0

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                    CPhillips
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                    No. Can you post a example?

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                      Wacov
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                      i'll try

                      http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/cldetails?mid=3096a836877fb9af6cd8ad826e9017b8&prevstart=0

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                        Wacov
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                        http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=ad2d1123b7c28ecff91ba95663370f18 That's an example of the frozen state problem, the convex hull glitch is rarer.

                        http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/cldetails?mid=3096a836877fb9af6cd8ad826e9017b8&prevstart=0

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                          Wacov
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                          here's a convex hull glitch example http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=1ac22ff0687af70a75d604ebf734887e

                          http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/cldetails?mid=3096a836877fb9af6cd8ad826e9017b8&prevstart=0

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                            CPhillips
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                            I dont know what is causing the frozen state bug but now I have an example I can fix it.

                            The other problem is because the building had been scaled. SP doesn't handle scaling very well.

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                              Wacov
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                              I didn't scale the building at any point, but I rotated it with the rotate tool. I think that may have caused the convex hull problem. Thanks though, it was pretty annoying.

                              http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/cldetails?mid=3096a836877fb9af6cd8ad826e9017b8&prevstart=0

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                                CPhillips
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                                @wacov said:

                                I didn't scale the building at any point, but I rotated it with the rotate tool. I think that may have caused the convex hull problem. Thanks though, it was pretty annoying.

                                I definitely got scaled somehow, rotate wouldn't do that. If you right click a piece and "reset scale" it gets bigger.

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                                  Wacov
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                                  Are you sure?? I dunno, I made it ages ago. Worked fine until I selected the whole lot and used the rotate tool. Maybe I scaled it afterwards...

                                  http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/cldetails?mid=3096a836877fb9af6cd8ad826e9017b8&prevstart=0

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