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    • AdamBA Offline
      AdamB
      last edited by

      I received a file from somebody using the Film & Stage plugin. I don't have this plugin, yet when I open the file it has the "camera framing" grayed out areas left and right showing the aspect ratio of the view finder.

      How does a plugin do that when its not installed on my machine? Are there some special hooks in the model to attach stuff?

      Confused,
      Adam

      Developer of LightUp Click for website

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      • R Offline
        remus
        last edited by

        Complete stab in the dark, but id guess its some function in SU that the model is accessing that isnt normally usable in SU.

        http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

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        • W Offline
          Whaat
          last edited by

          it has nothing to do with the plugin. The plugin must set the camera aspect ratio (Sketchup::Camera.aspect_ratio=)

          If the camera aspect ratio has been set, you will get black bars. You can only do this with Ruby, not with the SU interface. To get rid of the black bars, you have to set the aspect ratio back to 0.0 (default)

          Cheers

          SketchUp Plugins for Professionals

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          • free agentF Offline
            free agent
            last edited by

            the same thing happens with a file that has Maxwell render region set, even i dont have maxwell on my machine i still have the grey (see through) bars on the sides of my screen idicating the render area... kinda handy actually

            http:i167.photobucket.comalbumsu143FreeAgent84bug.gif

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            • C Offline
              cornel
              last edited by

              To remove gray/black bars from the display,
              can be used Ruby script named fixAspectRatio.rb
              (Plug-in by Rick Wilson)

              Cornel

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              • AdamBA Offline
                AdamB
                last edited by

                Ahh. Thanks guys, you learn something every day.

                Is this a well used feature? It seems to have drifted off into the long grass.

                Adam

                Developer of LightUp Click for website

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                • GaieusG Offline
                  Gaieus
                  last edited by

                  CubicPnoOut.rb (for an export to QT Panorama) also creates thes bars (but at leat you can create image output with your cutom ratio and not confined to the SU window ratio)

                  Gai...

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                  • RichardR Offline
                    Richard
                    last edited by

                    Adam for me I use it every day!! I find it helps to set a border to the likely size I want for output. So yes for some!

                    [BUILTBRAND.COM.AU](http://builtbrand.com.au/)

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                    • thomthomT Offline
                      thomthom
                      last edited by

                      Where do you download the latest for this plugin? I can only find one for SU5: http://sketchup.google.com/download/previousplugins.html

                      Searching for it only takes me to lots of video tutorial on it which doesn't help as long as I can't get hold of it... 😞

                      Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                      • D Offline
                        Dik Harrison
                        last edited by

                        thomthom,

                        I ran into the same thing, as far as I know that is it, there is not a new version. Although it makes sense to me that with the functionality of DCs, a new version would be great.

                        Have fun...

                        Dik

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                        • Chris FullmerC Offline
                          Chris Fullmer
                          last edited by

                          Yes, that is the current version and it works with v7. But there are a lot of small bugs with the way it dollies and pans (or something like that). If I recall they were attempting to fix it and found more problems than they were ready to deal with at the time and now it still has not been updated. Its a great plugin.

                          Chris

                          Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
                          All my Plugins I've written

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                          • GaieusG Offline
                            Gaieus
                            last edited by

                            Yes,I remember a testing period about a year ago but then haven't heard of it being released.

                            Gai...

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                            • thomthomT Offline
                              thomthom
                              last edited by

                              I see. Well it did install all right on SU7. And I was mostly interested in prodding and poking the ruby codes. πŸ˜„

                              Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                              List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                              • JClementsJ Offline
                                JClements
                                last edited by

                                Regarding FILM & STAGE.

                                I have heard that it had been re-evaluated for update/improving/fixing. It seemed that there was a consensus that it either really needed to be totally reworked or rewritten. Evidently, there were other things of higher priority for the Boulder folks to tackle.

                                IT IS MY OPINION that SOMETHING should be done to give PRO-licensees a good, intuitive, thorough, and precision set of camera tools inwhich the camera could be controlled via user input values and/or cursor keys and/or shortcut keys and to store preset screen aspect ratios. Getting good transistion between scenes relying upon the mouse and steady hand and replicating output to match previous project output quickly and easily is not adequate for "professional" presentations.

                                Perhaps, if SketchUcation forum members make a conserted and "loud" plea, Boulder will reprioritize a replacement for Film and Stage and other needed camera tools. And do it soon.

                                Regards,
                                John

                                John | Illustrator | Beaverton, Oregon

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                                • scottliningerS Offline
                                  scottlininger
                                  last edited by

                                  Wow, when it's in bold red how could we not respond. πŸ˜‰

                                  The Film & Stage plugin has been on our target list for updating for some time, but as you say we have limited resources and it didn't make the cut for SU7.

                                  @unknownuser said:

                                  IT IS MY OPINION that SOMETHING should be done to give PRO-licensees a good, intuitive, thorough, and precision set of camera tools inwhich the camera could be controlled via user input values and/or cursor keys and/or shortcut keys and to store preset screen aspect ratios. Getting good transistion between scenes relying upon the mouse and steady hand and replicating output to match previous project output quickly and easily is not adequate for "professional" presentations.

                                  So in the list above, what is missing from Film & Stage? I'm happy to dive back into that discussion.

                                  Cheers,

                                  • Scott Lininger
                                    SketchUp Software Engineer
                                    Have you visited the Ruby API Docs?
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                                  • Chris FullmerC Offline
                                    Chris Fullmer
                                    last edited by

                                    I was thinking that part of what was broken was all the pan and dolly commands. To me those are less important than the aspect ratio control and physical camera creation. It can be very useful to have a physical camera at times, to really understand whats going on in walkthroughs.

                                    Chris

                                    Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
                                    All my Plugins I've written

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                                    • GaieusG Offline
                                      Gaieus
                                      last edited by

                                      Pan an dolly could be ideal for creating images that can be assembled as 3D images - you know the ones that you watch with those fancy red and green glasses.

                                      Gai...

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                                      • F Offline
                                        Fletch
                                        last edited by

                                        well, Scott, if you're taking requests,
                                        I would like a 'physical camera' mode that at least lets me interactively in a sketch-up-like-manner chose the focal point so that all render engines could grab the data automatically thru their respective plugins. The other phys. cam. properties wouldn't be a bad idea. While these can't be 'seen' in SU, they would be utilized by other plugins I think.
                                        (I've never used the film & stage plugin, so don't know if this is already in there.)

                                        Fletch
                                        Twilight Render Cross-platform Plugin for SketchUp on PC or Mac

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                                        • R Offline
                                          rdwilkins
                                          last edited by

                                          "The Film & Stage plugin has been on our target list for updating for some time, but as you say we have limited resources and it didn't make the cut for SU7.

                                          Scott,

                                          I was exchanging e-mails with Bryce Stout during the beta-testing period and told him that this is something that those of us in the film industry really need to have addressed. The Film and Stage plug-in was great for locking the aspect ratio but we need a way of inputting accurate lens data as well.

                                          i could never understand why the angle of view was so different until I figured out Sketchup uses the vertical rather than horizontal field of view, whereas we normally use the horizontal number, for instance in Super 35 format all the ratios (1.78, 1.85 and 2.40) have the same horizontal angle of view. Only the vertical angle is different.

                                          I've developed a series of wireframes for each format that I insert into my models to calibrate the window for the aspect ratio. Once that is done I can input the lens data from my conversion sheets to show a specific lens, both film or HD lenses. As far as I know no one has their software configured to allow for digital lenses yet.

                                          I'd be happy to send you all my lens data. I've been writing an article for the Art Directors Guild magazine on my method of calibrating the program for specific lenses but hopefully you can make that method unnecesssary.

                                          If you could work this into the program you'd have legions of grateful fans here in Hollywood. I use Sketchup on every film and it just gets better all the time.

                                          Randall Wilkins

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                                          • J Offline
                                            Jim
                                            last edited by

                                            @rdwilkins said:

                                            I've developed a series of wireframes for each format that I insert into my models to calibrate the window for the aspect ratio. Once that is done I can input the lens data from my conversion sheets to show a specific lens, both film or HD lenses. As far as I know no one has their software configured to allow for digital lenses yet.

                                            Hello Randall,

                                            Who can say when the Film and Stage plugin will be updated; and although I don't know exactly what you mean about calibrating the window, it sounds as if automating your work-around is possible using an interim plugin.

                                            Maybe if you posted a request in the Ruby Forum, someone will be able to help.

                                            Hi

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