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    • DanielD Offline
      Daniel
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      Ross, I would bet that coverage world wide tends to be nationalistic. Given the number of competitions taking place each day, and the limited hours they have to cover them, I can see where broadcast companies would concentrate more on the home team. Also, don't forget many of these athletes compete nationally, and their fans in their home countries naturally want to know how they are doing. There are quite a few althetes there from the Univ. of Tennessee; a night doesn't go by that the local news doesn't inform us how they are doing.

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      • Mike LuceyM Offline
        Mike Lucey
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        Yeah Ross, I find that also. Irish TV was concentrating on our rowers
        and boxers. Still I was interested to know how they were doing. Ireland
        normally does well in the boxing but I can't see a medal coming back this
        time around but as they say 'It's the ........

        Saw a great documentary on the first Post WW2 Olympics held in London.
        The place was still crippled after the bombings. One story did however
        show how ordinary people can make a difference. To accommodate the
        athletes a prisoner of war camp was tidied up. Some of the POWs were
        held on to complete maintenance works. At the time the British
        Gymnastic Team had just been formed and had no idea what exercises were
        involved. It transpired that a German gymnast became the 'real coach'
        to the team although his name did not appear on the Team List. But
        everyone and their dog knew about it ๐Ÿ˜„

        Mateo, I agree with your point. You speak from experience and this
        reinforces it all the more.

        Mike

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        • jim smithJ Offline
          jim smith
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          @mike lucey said:

          I did think of that argument Paul, but singers that sell their
          services to Movie Studios to be dubbed by actors / actresses
          is a little different than this case. The song / singer was
          normally noted in the film credits.

          This was not the case with Yang Peiyi. If this had been done
          from the start I would not see hat happened as a problem.

          They get voice over credits today but in the good old days of Hollywood, it never came out that the on screen singing of Marilyn Monroe, deborah Kerr (The King and I), Natalie Wood (West Side Story), Audrey Hepburn (My Fair Lady) and a number of other actresses with inadequate pipes were dubbed - and uncredited- by the undercover studio singer Marni Nixon.

          Could it be the Chinese powers that be are just looking at too many old American flicks?

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          from discord find harmony,
          In the middle of difficulty lies opportunity"
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          • J Offline
            johnsenior1973
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            @unknownuser said:

            Could it be the Chinese powers that be are just looking at too many old American flicks?

            Seeing as the desire to want to produce the best show possible is obviously a Communist trait, it's pretty obvious that the Communists took over Hollywood and the American entertainment industry. Milli Vanilli, body doubles, the massive use of cosmetic surgery, CGI, lip-synching. The evidence is overwhelming.

            I reckon Senator McCarthy was really just a great guy trying to do a honourable job. It was a fantastic mind-trick that the Communist Hollywood bosses pulled on the world to make him look like a crazed witch-hunter.

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            • B Offline
              bubbalove
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              Yes it is an amazing thing for these girls to be competing as young as they are! I'm not denying that in anyway... but there are rules set by the IOC that you are supposed to follow and the Chinese have decided to bend or break (depending on how you see it) them so they can have more golds than the US! IMO that is all they're trying to do! It is easier for a 10 year old diver or gymnast to do all these moves because they're compact and a whole lot more flexible... but it really doesn't matter because we will never know how old those girls really are!

              [Edit] Maybe this will help: http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/summer08/gymnastics/news/story?id=3534544

              "Success consists of going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm." - Churchill

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              • I Offline
                igor
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                i myself find this whole scandal to be an outrage. that little girl that was supposed to sing competed in a grueling competition in order to sing at one of the greatest world gatherings. only for the Chinese government to say "no, your not pretty enough" to her and instead have another little girl with no singing talent steal her place and her voice. at least the chinese government told the world that it was faked, if they didnt say anything about it and i found out, i would be furious.

                and whats more, the chinese government started to find online threads and discussions about the scandal and soon after started to delete them! youtube videos have been blocked, threads deleted. i think that this forum isnt in danger of that happening.

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                • J Offline
                  johnsenior1973
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                  @igor said:

                  i myself find this whole scandal to be an outrage. that little girl that was supposed to sing competed in a grueling competition in order to sing at one of the greatest world gatherings. only for the Chinese government to say "no, your not pretty enough" to her and instead have another little girl with no singing talent steal her place and her voice. at least the chinese government told the world that it was faked, if they didnt say anything about it and i found out, i would be furious.

                  and whats more, the chinese government started to find online threads and discussions about the scandal and soon after started to delete them! youtube videos have been blocked, threads deleted. i think that this forum isnt in danger of that happening.

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                  But it didn't happen like that.

                  The girl who performed at the Olympics was always going to be the one who was performing. But at a late stage it was decided that she wasn't singing well enough, so they made the decision to substitute her singing to her miming to the best recording.

                  Of course, the foreign media decided to write that the 7 year old girl wasn't chosen because she was too ugly. Somehow I doubt that the show organisers would have phrased it like that when they told her that the performance would be performed to her singing. So something that would have been a true accolade becomes a scandal because of the worldwide media and the morons who believe them. Well done.

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                  • I Offline
                    igor
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                    well, that's another way of looking at it. Though I did find you coment a refrshing break from the monotony of the news about the scandal. You may have just proved me wrong.

                    And don't get me wrong ( no pun intended), I love being wrong. I means that there is another way of looking at something and that way might just make more sense than mine.

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                    • Mike LuceyM Offline
                      Mike Lucey
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                      John, have you a link to the 'true' story as you believe it?

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                      • david_hD Offline
                        david_h
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                        It's not just the performance you know. . it's about stage presence. . .and I just Simon and Paula liked the Cuter girl better. ๐Ÿ’šsimon_cowell_narrowweb__300x375,0.jpg

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                          johnsenior1973
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                          @mike lucey said:

                          John, have you a link to the 'true' story as you believe it?

                          Mike

                          I simply did a Google search with olympic lip synch scandal and read a couple of stories from the front page.

                          And when I just did the same search a few minutes ago the first few links I clicked on said that the 7 year old was replaced because she wasn't pretty enough. ๐Ÿ˜’

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                          • david_hD Offline
                            david_h
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                            great cartoon in our paper yesterday. . .

                            Faked fireworks
                            faked Little Girl Singing
                            Fake 16 year old gymnasts
                            Michael Phelps Gold medals. . .chocolate coins

                            If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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                            • B Offline
                              bellwells
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                              @mateo soletic said:

                              I agree with Mike that this little girl Yang Peiyi should not have been
                              substituted by Lin Miaoke. This is a big injustice to the little Yang who
                              obviously has the tallent but hasnt got the required looks or at least
                              someone thinks this way.

                              And for the people that think that this is fuss over nothing let me tell
                              You something about these countries like China.
                              I lived most of my life in a socialist/comunist state that was once
                              called Yugoslavia. In those countries being a individual is nothing .
                              The individual only exists to serve bigger cause. So now they took
                              her voice tommorow they will take her kidney . Believe me I have
                              been there.
                              And the worst thing the communists did is with peoples minds.
                              If these people had to choose between democracy and totalitarism
                              The majority would even now choose the latter.

                              It will take generations to change this. And if we keep saying that
                              this is fuss over nothing it will take even longer.

                              Mateo

                              Thanks for saying this, Mateo. I DO think this substitution is a big deal. It shows how desperate the Chinese government is to put on a happy face to the world. I'm not fooled. In fact, things like this just reinforce my sentiments.

                              Ron

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