First try Indigo
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Hi everyone,
I've been trying a few render programs the last few weeks, and I only recently discovered Indigo. I've been working with kerkythea , Podium and Maxwell , struggled with Vray, and know its Indigo's turn. After two days of trail and error, this is what I came up with:
I forgot to assign a few materials but i think it still came out pretty good for a first try. But its hard to find some decent tutorials, even on the Indigo forum. And i'm still figering out wich version of Indigo to use. Currently using 1.1.5 but 1.1.8 maybe better but still beta.
if there's someone with more Indigo experience. Help is welcome.
Greetings from Holland!
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Nice, stuff, the renders gt a good soft feel to it
I found 1.1.5 a bit flaky, but 1.1.9 is out now and is solid enough work with, at least thats what ive found so far.
I have to agree with you with regard to the lack of tutorials. Whaat wrote a good tutorial for 0.9 (i think) but its still the best thing out at the moment. You should be able to find it on the tutorials section of the indigo forum.
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Good start, no doubt.
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really a nice render. pity that the transition between wall and ceiling is that abrupt.
but the whole scene as a beautyful softness, as remus said. -
Thanxs for the feedback. I like the soft feel to. I let it render for about 24 hours ( I'm using a Acer Laptop that just isnt good enough, but that aside ). I still had a lot of noise. I opened teh file in Photoshop and used the noise filter. This saves a lot of render time. I think if I let the scene render for 48 hours it wouldn't have made a big difference. Post production processing is an important step in rendering with Indigo i think.
I've seen that there' s a new version: Indigo 1.1.9. Does anybody know if this works with the 1.1.8 exporter Skindigo 1.1.8. Cause I cant find Skindigo 1.1.9, It isn't out yet.
Greeting from Holland
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Skindigo 1.1.8 works with indigo 1.1.9.
As for the noise, you might have a bit more luck if you use exit portals for the windows, these render a lot faster than just having sun light through windows.
As for the post production thing, i think it depends a lot on how much work you put in to begin with. If you spend a long time gettign your textures perfect and getting the lighting just right (and set the camer up properly) you can achieve very good renders with very litle pp, at the other extreme, its often possible to rescue less than spectacular renders with some creative pp. Personaly i reckon its best to go for a mixture of the 2.
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Thank you remus. Finally a fast answer to a question. Thanx for the tip about the exit portals. I.m going to have a look at the Indigo forum for soms tips about this. So Exit portals are a bit like sky portal in Kerkythea?
Do you use the materials from the mat database on the Indigo site? Some work for me but sometimes I get an fatal error when using some. but the trouble is I dont know wich materials.
But my biggest problem is Time. This rendering and modeling Business is very time consuming. I find it difficult to combine with my job and my Girlfriend. Haha.
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Personally i dont use materials for the DB for the reasons you mentioned. I think the problem is that some of them are from an earlier version of indigo where materials were written in a different format than materials are currently written in. Hopefully they will be converted at some point.
I find it pretty easy to make my own materials, though, so i dont think its really anything worth worrying about.
As for exit portals and sky portals, im not entirely sure what sky portals are, but they sound like they are the same thing.
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Very nice..!!
I'm sure that wall will look great once you apply a displacement map...
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Thanks for the feedback frederik,
Maybe you have some tips for this displacement mapping. This is new to me. Can i use the texture as displacement map or do I have to make a grayscale image?
I' ve also noticed that the Indigi renders have a softer feel to them then my Kerkythea renders. Why? Is this in the settings? In my opinion Kerkythea has a clinical look with renders, to sharp.
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Displacement mapping is kind of like hard core bump mapping, so you do need a greyscale image. Youll also need the latest version of indigo/skindigo. You then just apply your diffuse texture as normal, then reverse the face and apply the displacement texture. If you then edit the diffuse texture and in the displacement section, put the texture you applied to the reverse face as the displacement map. Then set the displacement value (try something between 0.02 and 0.2.)
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@pugz1983 said:
Maybe you have some tips for this displacement mapping. This is new to me. Can i use the texture as displacement map or do I have to make a grayscale image?
Remus have already replied and I can't add anything further to this...
@pugz1983 said:
I' ve also noticed that the Indigi renders have a softer feel to them then my Kerkythea renders. Why? Is this in the settings? In my opinion Kerkythea has a clinical look with renders, to sharp.
Unfortunately I don't have any experience with Indigo myself, but I've also noticed this...
I assume that Indigo have a kind of "bloom" filter build in... Very very gentle though...Maybe others can shed some light on this...?!?
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Its a bit of a stab in the dark, but it might be the tone mapping presets whaat uses. Im guessing a lot of people dont mess about with them, so if theres a slight bloom built in then it would be present in a lot of skindigo renders.
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I've tried this displacement mapping in Indigo and this is the result. Still a few errors, but I think its already better then my first try. I screwed up the bumpmap for the floor. i've noticed I didn't use a greyscale for this.
I'm struggeling with the lighting now. Lights realy take a lot more time to render
. Any tips to speeds things up. I work with Kerkythea and IndigoGreetz from Holland
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If your using kerkythea, id suggest switchint to a biased render method, if i remeber correctly theyre a lot faster for doing interior scenes (which is a lot of the reason your lights take so long to render.)
In indigo there isnt really a lot you can do other than sit it out. Oh, and if your using the latest version of indigo you can put all the lights on seperate layers nd adjust how powerful tey are while the renders going. Useful stuff
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