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  • M Offline
    MALAISE
    last edited by 18 Jul 2008, 17:23

    Hello Gentlemen

    I've tested more the plugin proper-animation from our friend Morisdov
    Great indeed, if you need to explain sequential tasks ( robotic...).
    I would suggest some enhancements:

    If you look at the joined file, you'll see that rotations are not really
    centered, giving some strange visual effects ( the groups seem not rotate along
    the same centre) Of course, if several movements are done during the transition
    from one scene to the next, we "smooth" that default.

    Another effect, may be easily hidden, appears when using loop animation. The transition between the last and the first scene, let us see jump of group to
    original positions when they are not involve immediately.

    Maybe theses remarks could help.

    How easy would it be when copying and paste scenes for looping movements could be done, but that's another subject. 😕

    Thank you.

    MALAISE 😄


    use of proper-animation test

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      pilou
      last edited by 18 Jul 2008, 19:40

      an another funny thing is that the shadows arrive after the movement 😉

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        Dave R
        last edited by 18 Jul 2008, 20:30

        I don't have the plugin on this computer but I've seen (and asked about) the issue with rotations. It just occurred to me to wonder; what if you make the rotating part a component instead of a group and place its axis so the origin is at the center of rotation. I haven't tried this but maybe that's the fix.

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          N Lindenthal
          last edited by 19 Jul 2008, 05:14

          How can I get the »Transformation« menue item in right mouse click on mac. I miss it.

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            MALAISE
            last edited by 19 Jul 2008, 05:54

            Very clever advice Dave. 👍 👍

            I try it as soon as possible.

            Effectively, I did notice the shadow's delay 👍 Pilou 😉

            About transformation, it's on mouse right click when you select a group
            in order to store its new position ( Guck mal in Deutscher Abteilung, mein Post )
            N Lindenthal 😄

            Thanks for PM, Guys
            MALAISE

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              N Lindenthal
              last edited by 19 Jul 2008, 16:54

              @malaise said:

              …
              on mouse right click when you select a group in order to store its new position
              …

              Hello, Malaise,
              I did never find the »Transformation« item in right mouse click. New file, new circle, pull, mark all, make a group, mark group, right mouse click:


              I miss the »Transformation« in right mouse click

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                Shotster
                last edited by 19 Jul 2008, 22:17

                @dave r said:

                what if you make the rotating part a component instead of a group and place its axis so the origin is at the center of rotation.

                Interesting you should mention this. A couple days ago I did just that in an effort to get my paper folding animation to work. (Right click and choose play.)

                [flash=200,193:21jtvhjy]http://www.adeptool.com/anim/PaperFold.swf[/flash:21jtvhjy]

                -Steve

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                  N Lindenthal
                  last edited by 20 Jul 2008, 04:56

                  @unknownuser said:

                  …
                  maybe your plug is not installed?

                  If I write in ruby console:

                  load "proper_animation.rb"
                  

                  I get »true«, so the plug is installed.

                  But is there anyone on mac, who can show, that the plug is running?

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                    pilou
                    last edited by 20 Jul 2008, 07:56

                    @ N Lindenthal so maybe your plug is not installed?
                    That you must see on the Right Click (on Transformations) 😉


                    transfo.jpg

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                    Is beautiful that please without concept!
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                      MALAISE
                      last edited by 20 Jul 2008, 08:48

                      N Lidenthal , Unfortunaly, I left Mac technology for a long while.
                      Can you read animated files ( one of mine for instance )? then try to modify it
                      just in order to see if it's not Mac-dependant ❓ ❓

                      Hi Shotster
                      What kind of software do you use to display this small picture?

                      MALAISE 😄 😄

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                        N Lindenthal
                        last edited by 20 Jul 2008, 09:43

                        @Malaise
                        I can watch animated files on mac, and I tried to modify them. But to give them a new transformation, was unsucessfull, because in right mouse click there is no transformation.

                        In context menu (right mouse click on marked objects) there are several textlines and several bounding lines. If I take the proper_animation.rb-script away from plugins folder and start SU again, the context menu has one bounding line less. Under the textlines there are 2 bounding lines. If proper_animation is installed, there are 3 bounding lines.

                        It seems, that between the bounding lines should exist a text line from one ruby script. So what ruby script also does not apear there?

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                          MALAISE
                          last edited by 20 Jul 2008, 12:43

                          Hallo N Lindenthal

                           There is probably something wrong written in the rb.file. Please send it me
                          and I'll test it on my PC ( not Mac tut mir Leit ). Then we may ask his author some improvement. 
                          

                          Tschüss
                          MALAISE

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                            N Lindenthal
                            last edited by 20 Jul 2008, 20:00

                            Malaise, you got my .rb-file over PM?

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                              Shotster
                              last edited by 20 Jul 2008, 22:34

                              @malaise said:

                              What kind of software do you use to display this small picture?

                              It's actually an embedded Flash animation. You should get a contextual menu when you right click on it. Select "Play" to view the animation.

                              -Steve

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                                pilou
                                last edited by 20 Jul 2008, 23:09

                                @unknownuser said:

                                What kind of software do you use to display this small picture?

                                and when you right click on the image you can see the name of the prog 😉

                                Frenchy Pilou
                                Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                My Little site :)

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                                  MALAISE
                                  last edited by 21 Jul 2008, 15:10

                                  Hello Gents

                                   The transformation option will appear only if a group or component is selected
                                  

                                  whatever the observer view is ON or OFF. I mean you click on group to reach positions ( set or get ..)
                                  The use of stop animation observer stores the new view after all changes.
                                  Start animation observer enables the show (scenes 1 then 2 .....)

                                  It seems to be simple but not so obvious.

                                  You have to select all the groups or components activated involved in the scene, after any modification of one or more groups, before setting a new position. If you jump this stage you may get strange results.

                                  I have one question : ( Mainly for the plugin's father 😉 )

                                  All movements are done within the same time. I mean a long displacement or a
                                  short rotation require 1 second..( for instance )

                                  Could it be possible later to modify this "time" parameter ?

                                  Thanks for attention

                                  MALAISE 😄 😄

                                  La Connaissance n'a de valeur que partagée

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                                    morisdov
                                    last edited by 21 Jul 2008, 17:35

                                    Hello Guys,

                                    1. When rotating an object, Setting the axis so the origin is at the center of rotation - as suggested by DaveR - is probably the eaysiest way to control the "center" of the object you are animating/rotating.
                                    2. I dont have access to a mac machine so all my ruby programming and tests are done on windows only.
                                    3. I read some post by RickW that Each scene/page can get its own "transition" time - so i can probably do it - but, we will never compete with true "timeline" based animations like 3DSMax and Maya, you can use few scenes to simulate a single long leg of an animation part.
                                    4. When an object is selected for "animation" - in "Windows->Preferences->Shortcuts" you may define "Position X" shortcut keys if you want.
                                    5. I am traying to keep this plugin "simple" by adding only "must" features if we have to, maybe later we will add more "nice to have" settings.

                                    Keep on the good work, Moris

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                                      MALAISE
                                      last edited by 21 Jul 2008, 18:03

                                      Hallo Morisdov

                                      Nice to read you again.
                                      Hereby I send another file using the plugin you've made.

                                      Just see how fast is the boat crossing the gate ( what 's the name in English ?)
                                      ( even if I modify animation setting ) but I will survive 😆
                                      Thanks you once more time.

                                      MALAISE 😄


                                      boat and water gates ?

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                                        me3mar
                                        last edited by 21 Jul 2008, 20:18

                                        is it possible to render such an animation using proper_animation.rb and vray ?

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                                          MALAISE
                                          last edited by 22 Jul 2008, 06:58

                                          Hello Guys

                                          I see, you've downloaded the file. About Vray, i'm not experienced.
                                          Maybe one of us have already opened the way ??

                                          MALAISE 👍

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