sketchucation logo sketchucation
    • Login
    โ„น๏ธ Licensed Extensions | FredoBatch, ElevationProfile, FredoSketch, LayOps, MatSim and Pic2Shape will require license from Sept 1st More Info

    Confirmed: Apple files suit against Psystar

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Corner Bar
    22 Posts 5 Posters 1.7k Views 5 Watching
    Loading More Posts
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as topic
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • B Offline
      basic.woodworks
      last edited by

      so.. essentially they're building IBM compatibles with OS X rather than Windows?!? Isn't that a good thing for Apple?? I guess I should read up on it to understand the who, what and why.

      Mike

      "The greatest mistake a person can make is to be afraid of making one." (Elbert Hubbard)

      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
      • R Offline
        remus
        last edited by

        Yeha, thats pretty much all theyre doing.

        As for it bring good for apple, i doubt it. Its a well known fact that apple charges a ludicrous amount for its hardware, so i suspect that is where they make a lot of their cash, therefore them not selling hardware=losing lots of money

        http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
        • Chris FullmerC Offline
          Chris Fullmer
          last edited by

          (This is my opinion and my understanding of a complex situation)

          That was what hurt apple from the get-go though was that their product was on lockdown, not as open for other developers to make. Less competition means higher prices. So PC's took off because there was a lot of market competition for the internal bits and pieces. A person has always been able to go buy the baords and pieces to make a PC "from scratch". No one can do that with a Mac. That hurts the Mac to not have techy geeks building their Mac product for a small profit. PC's are always behind the Mac in technology though, but that is because they fought to have open market standards so everyone could develop for the PC, thus slowing down their ability to adopt new hardware protocols. But Mac could speed along with technology because they didn't have to coordinate such standards to the same extent that the PC has decided to do. So Mac has always been more stable, more technologically advanced in many respects, and even cooler looking because its only them desinging the things. Of course, they are also significantly more expensive.

          All hail the PC!

          Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
          All my Plugins I've written

          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
          • R Offline
            remus
            last edited by

            Have you got any examples of this? i was under the impression that both systems adopted new technology at a similar rate (although i dont know any of the history, so i could be wrong.)

            http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
            • Chris FullmerC Offline
              Chris Fullmer
              last edited by

              Just in the earlier days (I don't know whats under the hood now) but they were running scsi drives that were faster, early adoption of firewire, and also digital video outputs. I guess thats what I was thinking of. They could adopt these standards faster because they didn't have to worry standard case dimension specifications, new board compatibilty with older boards. That is my understanding.

              Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
              All my Plugins I've written

              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
              • R Offline
                remus
                last edited by

                Cheers, like i said i dont really know a lot about the hardware of old so examples help me ๐Ÿ˜„

                In terms of modern hardware i understand macs and PCs are on a pretty level footing really. The only difference being, as you said, macs dont have to worry about standardisation of their hardware in the same way PCs have to.

                http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                • Mike LuceyM Offline
                  Mike Lucey
                  last edited by

                  The point of my post seems to have been missed. The second link
                  shows that Psystar doesn't even have a base! It looks like their
                  web site / sales deck was a scam!

                  Mike

                  Support us so we can support you! Upgrade to Premium Membership!

                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                  • R Offline
                    remus
                    last edited by

                    I read about them a while ago, when they first started up, and there was indeed some funny business, although i thought the latest reports were that people were getting their machines, so i assumed they were legit. I'll try and find the relevant article.

                    http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                    • R Offline
                      remus
                      last edited by

                      Well theres a review here and here, so some machines are getting out.

                      Saying that its not looking too good for the companies future: http://gizmodo.com/5026988/psystar-hq-up-for-sale-buy-it-now-for-46-million

                      http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                      • Chris FullmerC Offline
                        Chris Fullmer
                        last edited by

                        Yeah, sorry to hijack the thread for a few turns there Mike. I also read an article showing that they appear to not even exist. Who knows, those machines that were delivered might be a part of the hoax too. Or maybe they are something hacked together by a guy just to make it look legit and actually sent out to real customers. Its a silly thing. I hate Mac.

                        Chris

                        Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
                        All my Plugins I've written

                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                        • B Offline
                          basic.woodworks
                          last edited by

                          If a person.. say me, decided to buy a "PC" but not format it for "Windows" and install "OS X", could this not be done? or would the Bios need to be changed as well? If OS X is so much better than Windows... Why can't people do it themselves?

                          Mike RL

                          "The greatest mistake a person can make is to be afraid of making one." (Elbert Hubbard)

                          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                          • B Offline
                            basic.woodworks
                            last edited by

                            Sorry.. I think I meant "DOS"

                            Mike RL

                            "The greatest mistake a person can make is to be afraid of making one." (Elbert Hubbard)

                            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                            • soloS Offline
                              solo
                              last edited by

                              Can be done.

                              3 easy steps:

                              http://dailyapps.net/2007/10/hack-attack-install-leopard-on-your-pc-in-3-easy-steps/

                              I cannot see why one would not be allowed to if you purchased the Mac OS legitimately.

                              http://www.solos-art.com

                              If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

                              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                              • R Offline
                                remus
                                last edited by

                                Its in the apple EULA, no idea why but it is.

                                Mike, its not quite as simple as that. There are 2 major problems. Firstly all apple computers have a little chip in them that verifies the computer as apple hardware, without this the machine (theoretically) cant boot up os x. The second problem is the lack of hardware drivers. Because apple is able to control what hardawre goes on their machines they only have drivers for a very select few bits of kit, so anything that isnt used by apple anyway has to have modded drivers written for it by someone.

                                Their are work arounds, obviously, but these are the main obstacles to installing os x on standard hardware.

                                http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

                                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                • B Offline
                                  basic.woodworks
                                  last edited by

                                  so... damned if you do.. damned if you don't. You can either pay too much for Mac or pay little for PC and a bunch more to "renovate".

                                  Being that Mac has "allowed" the ability to install widows on their computers, should they have the courtesy to reciprocate??

                                  Mike RL

                                  "The greatest mistake a person can make is to be afraid of making one." (Elbert Hubbard)

                                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                  • B Offline
                                    basic.woodworks
                                    last edited by

                                    Hey SOLO

                                    You think they'd let me install my copy of Leopard, which is on my Mac, onto my wife's PC?? I guess the registration might be a problem, huh?!? ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                    Mike RL

                                    "The greatest mistake a person can make is to be afraid of making one." (Elbert Hubbard)

                                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                    • soloS Offline
                                      solo
                                      last edited by

                                      well now after hearing about the EULA restrictions, I guess not as that would be illegal. ๐Ÿ˜’

                                      http://www.solos-art.com

                                      If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

                                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                      • R Offline
                                        remus
                                        last edited by

                                        i think its technically possible, although not legally.

                                        I didnt realise you had to register os x, i thought it just worked straight out of the box? correct me if im wrong, as i dont use os x at all...

                                        http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

                                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                        • B Offline
                                          basic.woodworks
                                          last edited by

                                          Just like XP and Vista, it comes with the computer but if, as in my case, it came with an older version, OS X 9.x Tiger, and you want to upgrade to OS X 10.x Leopard, you have to install and register it the same as you would and Windows operating system (hence OS by the way).

                                          Mike RL

                                          "The greatest mistake a person can make is to be afraid of making one." (Elbert Hubbard)

                                          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                          • 1
                                          • 2
                                          • 2 / 2
                                          • First post
                                            Last post
                                          Buy SketchPlus
                                          Buy SUbD
                                          Buy WrapR
                                          Buy eBook
                                          Buy Modelur
                                          Buy Vertex Tools
                                          Buy SketchCuisine
                                          Buy FormFonts

                                          Advertisement