Pont du Gard

Julius

Hi Julius,

Nice model, really!

i'm glad to hear you like the model.

I have positioned (rotated radially) the texture on the arch for you hoping that you used the same component at least on that storey... but then I realised that I edited the one unique arch and then I was too lazy to do the job elsewhere, too.

i must admit i did quite a mess with components...

@gaieus said:

Also, the positioning could have been done more nicely...
Well, anyway, this is basically the way to adjust the arch if you do not have a ready-to-use arch material.

thank you very much! yes, it could have been positioned more nicely, but it doesn't matter, you did a great job...but...i'm too stupid to understand how you positioned the material ...

@gaieus said:

Note that you seem to have applied the material from outside the components' context, you will have to apply it onto the individual faces one-by-one first to be able to position it.

this is because i added the texture when the model was cmplete, and i was too lazy to add it to each compnent (as you've seen they're quite a lot: the arches on the same stories seem to be identical, but in fact they are not, they have little differences).

so, could you explain me how you positioned the material on the arch? thanks in advance.

pichuneke

Gaieus gave me a good idea for my roman theatre with the textures.

Julius, with our models one day we will be able to do our own roman city!

Julius

@pichuneke said:

Gaieus gave me a good idea for my roman theatre with the textures.

Julius, with our models one day we will be able to do our own roman city!

why not?

watkins

Take a look at

http://www.sciencecodex.com/ancient_rome_rebuilt_digitally

Julius

@watkins said:

Take a look at

http://www.sciencecodex.com/ancient_rome_rebuilt_digitally

the article is quite old, in the meantime the major has changed
btw, it's an interesting project.

Gaieus

Hi Julius, with what I wrote "the positioning could have been nicer" I meant what I did. With more careful positioning I could have achieved better results.

As you asked for i9t, I will make a tutorial about how to do this positioning thing (although if I can find the one I remember, I may just link there).

Edit: I have found the tutorial:
http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=635&

M technique was somewhat similar - although since your arch here is not perfectly a half circle, I had to adjust each and every segment of it. As for rotating the material, read about "Manipulating a Material Using Fixed Pin Mode" in the SU Guide. You can use the green grip to rotate your texture about the red grip.

mcat

i love this roman aqueduct
my holiday photo:
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/3347979
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/3536096
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/3535761

Julius

Thank you Gaieus! I attach an image of the first arch i've done: it was quite boring and i still have to do the other arches.

@mcat said:

i love this roman aqueduct
my holiday photo:
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/3347979
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/3536096
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/3535761

nice photos, i remember the olive tree! i think it comes from spain or something like that.

Gaieus

Yes, Julius, certainly it is very boring but once you finish an arch, you may be able to use it as a component on arches of the same size and shape. And don't forget; texturing (especially if you want to render in an external application) is almost as important as modeling itself.

Julius

@gaieus said:

Yes, Julius, certainly it is very boring but once you finish an arch, you may be able to use it as a component on arches of the same size and shape.

that arch is a component: but there are 6 different kinds of arches in this model...

@gaieus said:

And don't forget; texturing (especially if you want to render in an external application) is almost as important as modeling itself.

you're right: in fact i exported the model to kerkythea and the texture on the arches was randomly placed! after all the time i spent positioning it! so i had to go back to SU, export a 2d view of the arch and import it as texture. and when i exported it to KT it was ok.

Gaieus

Hm... There must be some problem then, during the export. It should not screww up the positioned textures!

GreyHead

Most likely you need to select "Export default UVs" as 'Yes' when you export to Kerkythea from SketchUp. If the UVs aren't exported then KT uses settings of its own.

The picture on the left has the default settings and some textures are large and others small. The one on the right uses the SU mapping (though some textures are missing in this case - it's the earlier version of he model posted below).

Bob

Julius

@greyhead said:

Most likely you need to select "Export default UVs" as 'Yes' when you export to Kerkythea from SketchUp. If the UVs aren't exported then KT uses settings of its own.

The picture on the left has the default settings and some textures are large and others small. The one on the right uses the SU mapping (though some textures are missing in this case - it's the earlier version of he model posted below).

Bob

mmm...that doesn't seem to solve the problem, on the contrary...
the attached image below shows the model exported in KT with UVs:

GreyHead

Interesting . . . scratches head . . .

Bob

Julius, have sent you a pm.

Frederik

Julius - sorry for my ignorance, but how have you applied the textures..??
And have you tried exporting to an OBJ-file, instead of using the SU2KT..??
Reason for asking is that SU2KT can't handle some parts of SU texturing very good (i.e. Photomatch)...

Can't you post your scene or a part of it at the KT Forum..??
I'm sure that someone will be happy to debug this...

Julius

@frederik said:

Julius - sorry for my ignorance, but how have you applied the textures..??

with the bucket tool and then i adjusted the position.( )

@frederik said:

And have you tried exporting to an OBJ-file, instead of using the SU2KT..??
since i use SU free version i can't export to OBJ.

@frederik said:

Reason for asking is that SU2KT can't handle some parts of SU texturing very good (i.e. Photomatch)...

here i didn't use photomatch.

@frederik said:

Can't you post your scene or a part of it at the KT Forum..??
I'm sure that someone will be happy to debug this...

if you insist...

remus

If you want you could PM me the new file with the updated textures and i'll export it as an obj.

pichuneke

I had the same problem with the textures in my roman theatre of orange. I am working in a better version, I will have to ask for someone to export it to .obj when finished.

Frederik

@julius said:

if you insist...

I do...

@pichuneke said:

I had the same problem with the textures in my roman theatre of orange.

Aaahhh yeah - I remember that...
I explained this to you in the Roman theatre of Orange (France) Today....

@pichuneke said:

I am working in a better version, I will have to ask for someone to export it to .obj when finished.

If it doesn't breach any copyright issues, I have no problem doing it for you...

pichuneke

@frederik said:

If it doesn't breach any copyright issues, I have no problem doing it for you...

I don't know how it may break any copyright issues. The model is made by me, it is freely downloadable from 3D Warehouse, all the images for the textures have authorization of use by their owners...

Anyway I won the prize and I am going to Orange at the end of the month. I'll take a lot of photos, I may even use my own textures

France must be frightened. Pichuneke arrives