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    • JClementsJ Offline
      JClements
      last edited by

      Rick, thanks for the summary.

      Here is another idea ... or rather farout/pie-in-sky idea. Be nice if it could be eventually done.

      Enable the scene names and their groups (and maybe visible layer names asscociated with them) such that if the model is imported or somehow pasted into another file the scene-groups are maintained, while the current model's scenes are left in tack. That way it would make it easy to build a "final" model with complex page sequencing.

      John | Illustrator | Beaverton, Oregon

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        dylan
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        I think many of us struggle managing large quantities of scenes, so any ruby to make things more manageable will certainly be welcome.

        Look forward to its release.

        http://dmdarchitecture.co.uk/

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        • R Offline
          RickW
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          @John: I think it could be managed with PageExIm, and maybe also with a direct import (though not right now). Eventually, I could possibly also add the direct import capability into PageExIm's capabilities, and have an idea right now of how it might happen...

          But first I'll get this thing rolling 😄

          @Dylan: thanks for the encouragement! I think a release is possible in a couple of weeks.

          RickW
          [www.smustard.com](http://www.smustard.com)

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          • R Offline
            RickW
            last edited by

            Yes, I plan to add a renaming capability to the mix. It wouldn't be a global rename (pattern-matching) functionality, just a per-scene rename. The goal (though maybe I'm thinking too narrow) was simply to manage large quantities of scenes, and get them organized and easily visible. Renaming fits my scope (organization), and I suppose if enough people asked, I could possibly be persuaded that there's a case to be made for a pattern-matching rename function within this plugin. I didn't intend to duplicate Todd's functionality, but perhaps something could be worked out. 😄

            RickW
            [www.smustard.com](http://www.smustard.com)

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            • jujuJ Offline
              juju
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              Rick, whenever you're (it's) ready. Obviously sooner would be better than later, but either way this plugin is a must have in my eyes. Merry coding! 😉

              Save the Earth, it's the only planet with chocolate.

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              • R Offline
                RickW
                last edited by

                Update
                After some bug squishing, I have two feature items left to implement:

                1. Scene and Group renaming
                2. Group removal (single and global)

                Another thing I'm considering is a SceneGroupReader. It would be a view-only interface (no drag/drop or organization tools) that would provide just the collapsible groups and click-to-select scenes. It would be offered with the organization set and as a free standalone. Thoughts?

                I was also thinking about a text file export-import feature. I imagine it would work this way:

                1. user exports (via the plugin) the scene names to a text file
                2. user opens the text file and adds group headers before each group of pages (all pages under a group header will be added to the group)
                3. user saves the text file, then imports it.

                I think it might be faster in some cases than even drag/drop. See sample text files for before/after. Thoughts?

                Thanks, all!


                before-after.zip

                RickW
                [www.smustard.com](http://www.smustard.com)

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                • jujuJ Offline
                  juju
                  last edited by

                  That looks really promising! Thanks for the visualisation.

                  WRT the external text file. I suppose it could work and offers some kind of control / standardisation, but it is yet another file to access. Personally, I'd rather have all functionality accessible from one interface.

                  Save the Earth, it's the only planet with chocolate.

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                    RickW
                    last edited by

                    My first shot at a screen-capture video. This shows the actual plugin in action, with no editing gimmicks.

                    RickW
                    [www.smustard.com](http://www.smustard.com)

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                    • R Offline
                      RickW
                      last edited by

                      By way of update, after a family crisis and extended work schedules ("overtime"), I hope to get back to this soon. I just heard about a peripheral request that might be relevant to this plugin, so the scope might expand (either now or in a future version).

                      RickW
                      [www.smustard.com](http://www.smustard.com)

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                      • jujuJ Offline
                        juju
                        last edited by

                        Still enthusiastic, bring it on!

                        Save the Earth, it's the only planet with chocolate.

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                        • bigstickB Offline
                          bigstick
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                          Excellent news. I have wanted something like this since v4!

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                          • jujuJ Offline
                            juju
                            last edited by

                            Yeah Rick, I know you're probably still working on it, consider this a BUMP and reminder. 😉

                            Save the Earth, it's the only planet with chocolate.

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                              RickW
                              last edited by

                              Actually, I hit a block at the renaming functionality. Click-drag is used to organize, and click is used to activate the scene, leaving not much else for renaming, other than adding a row of links under the scene name (or icons beside the name) for accessing the various features. The icons could be a possibility.

                              Thoughts?

                              RickW
                              [www.smustard.com](http://www.smustard.com)

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                                chango70
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                                Sounds incredably useful! Thanks Rick!

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                                • jujuJ Offline
                                  juju
                                  last edited by

                                  @rickw said:

                                  Actually, I hit a block at the renaming functionality. Click-drag is used to organize, and click is used to activate the scene, leaving not much else for renaming, other than adding a row of links under the scene name (or icons beside the name) for accessing the various features. The icons could be a possibility.

                                  Thoughts?

                                  Personally, I'd be happy to do renaming in the normal SU scene organiser tab if need be. Just to be able to organise them would already be a great help, until such time as you can figure things out.

                                  Is the organisation still only one tier deep or several tiers deep Rick? praying you answer several tiers deep

                                  Save the Earth, it's the only planet with chocolate.

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                                    RickW
                                    last edited by

                                    Still only one (sorry). I'll be happy just to get this one released, and then add the functionality once I get the API for the javascript figured out. It may be another free/pro dual offering...

                                    RickW
                                    [www.smustard.com](http://www.smustard.com)

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                                    • JClementsJ Offline
                                      JClements
                                      last edited by

                                      Rick,

                                      In general, for your (Smustard's) scripts, I wouldn't mind seeing more Free and Pro versions.

                                      Hopefully, it wouldn't be a maintenance nightmare.

                                      Who knows, perhaps it would lead to more revenue as users would be able to experience the free version and then see the value of purchasing the PRO version.

                                      John | Illustrator | Beaverton, Oregon

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                                      • jujuJ Offline
                                        juju
                                        last edited by

                                        Seems fine Rick, as long as it is easily recognisable and clear when looking at it at a glance, even simple check/uncheck boxes would do. I hate looking at an interface for more than a glance when I'm checking settings, different story when I'm doing them, but even then a simple and clear interface is quite important.

                                        Save the Earth, it's the only planet with chocolate.

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                                          RickW
                                          last edited by

                                          Update: I added icons for "activate scene" (the arrow), "rename scene/group" (the quotes), and "delete group" (the 'x') - feedback?

                                          SceneGroups dialog showing icons

                                          John: Thanks for the input. I'll see how it goes for future scripts...

                                          RickW
                                          [www.smustard.com](http://www.smustard.com)

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                                          • R Offline
                                            RickW
                                            last edited by

                                            I suppose I could drop the "activate scene" icon and go back to clicking the title to activate the scene - that would declutter things a bit.

                                            I may need to go back and update my as-yet-unreleased SceneExporterPro to display the scenes in groups (or save it for the first update). 😄

                                            RickW
                                            [www.smustard.com](http://www.smustard.com)

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