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    • M Offline
      mateo soletic
      last edited by

      It looks really nice like this,I would really
      like to see Your original version.
      I am a tradition fan myself but there are allways times when one can combine modern and traditional styles.

      [Concept Illustrations](http://concept-illustrations.com/)

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        dylan
        last edited by

        Like it Edson, especially now you have posted this last image so I can see it better.

        I would be interested to see how it looks with a bit of horizontal timber cladding on a few walls.

        http://dmdarchitecture.co.uk/

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          Edson
          last edited by

          @mateo soletic said:

          It looks really nice like this,I would really
          like to see Your original version.

          it is here

          edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
          http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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            Edson
            last edited by

            @unknownuser said:

            I would be interested to see how it looks with a bit of horizontal timber cladding on a few walls.

            well, me too, but the clients seem to have a thing about stone walls. since i do not mind it i am not pushing for something else.

            another thing to be said is that here you have to design keeping in mind that people almost never maintain their buildings, let alone a building that will not have a specific owner. being the condo's clubhouse it is everyone's (optimistic view) and noone's (realistic view). the timber cladding would be left to rot and then the architect --me-- would be the culprit, of course.

            edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
            http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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              mateo soletic
              last edited by

              Now that i have seen the original I must say that I prefer the
              original concept but as You say sometimes one can push as far as one
              can.

              [Concept Illustrations](http://concept-illustrations.com/)

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              • DanielD Offline
                Daniel
                last edited by

                I can see why you favor your first design, but this design is rather nice too. It still has the clean lines of more contemporary work.

                Your comment about lack of maintenance (which I've found to be universal for all building types and clients) makes me wonder about the restrooms and kitchen. If I am reading your plan correctly, the main vaulted space extends over their flat ceiling structures; wouldn't that create two large dust shelves?

                My avatar is an anachronism.

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                • EdsonE Offline
                  Edson
                  last edited by

                  thanks for the contribution. you are quite right, daniel. i am not sure yet about what to do with it.

                  the alternatives: giving the restrooms and kitchen the same ceiling height of the main room, which seems a bit weird, to say the least, or make the two ancillary spaces small additions to the main volume which seems to me even worse (it would turn the whole into a collection of smallish pieces --thus breaking the elementarity of the scheme-- and would call undue attention to service areas of the building).

                  perhaps making those slabs accessible would help. putting plants there would also run into the maintenance problem.

                  any thoughts?

                  edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
                  http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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                    Daniel
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                    A few quick thoughts:

                    Extending those elements to the ceiling, but enclosing the tops with glass to allow borrowed natural light, and possibly maintain the feeling of the main space. Might look too busy, however.

                    I like the idea of making it occupiable; that was an initial thought I had last night.

                    Those are just quick thoughts on my part. Perhaps it isn't such a major deal. As designers, I thnk it is incumbent on us to consider how a building is used and take into such mundane aspects, but we can go only so far. I've been renovating fraternity houses for a few years now, and have come to the conclusion there is only so much I can do; we can't make our clients maintain their buildings (nor prevent frat boys from destroying them).

                    My avatar is an anachronism.

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                      jranbrandt
                      last edited by

                      Edson,

                      I noticed in your original that there's a childrens' swingset at ground level off to the right. If that is still part of the plan, the tall stone wall in your revised plan will keep eager children from darting straight for the swings and tumbling from the top of the patio over the wall.

                      But I'd humbly suggest improving the sight lines from clubhouse, or at least from top of patio, across to the swings, so children can be seen while they play.

                      Kind regards,

                      Jonathan

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                      • EdsonE Offline
                        Edson
                        last edited by

                        jonathan,

                        it is a genuine worry. i will keep that in mind. thanks.

                        daniel,

                        this is a possibility although the original idea was to have the two end volumes as boxes within the main space. i will not do anything for now since the clients have not seen this new alternative yet. there is always the possibility that they do not like this one either...

                        edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
                        http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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