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    • K 離線
      kwistenbiebel
      最後由 編輯

      ...And a close-up on the wassilly chairs.....does it really show they are low poly?
      (antialiasing settings should be increased however)

      I think Vray does a fine job on smoothing it out.
      A cool feauture: the Vray depth map (it's called Z-depth) can be switched on in framebuffer tab. The depthmap works like a charm in Pshop....although overdoing the lens blur kind of miniaturises the objects in the scene:


      tadao-wassillysmall.jpg

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      • K 離線
        kwistenbiebel
        最後由 編輯

        And a quick try on the interior.
        I didn't bother to make the grass perfect...just loaded a texture i thought would suit it 'acceptable'.
        Next time I'll try and figure out that mean displacement feature.


        andoexterior.jpg

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        • jenujacobJ 離線
          jenujacob
          最後由 編輯

          wowweee.... i see that ur havin fun chris!!!
          nice ones... loved the closeup on the eames chairs!! cant notice low poly anywhere!!!
          DOF works a charm using the Zdepth!!!

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          • D 離線
            dylan
            最後由 編輯

            Loving the render, looks fantastic, but more so just really liking the model. Ando produces some stunning buildings.

            http://dmdarchitecture.co.uk/

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            • N 離線
              nomeradona
              最後由 編輯

              kwisten,

              really like these images. with regards to fast rendering time, i think we can share visopts together. basically qmc calculates longer than IR ( they are just like omni against LEM in podium. bumps, blurry reflections and displacements are actually culprits too. so the question of planning will play an important part too. dont use also double galzing for mirror. just use single face. double face mirror will tremendously kill us. i did managed to lower my rendering time lesser than an hour.

              visit my blog: http://www.nomeradona.blogspot.com

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              • K 離線
                kwistenbiebel
                最後由 編輯

                Thanks guys.... 😄

                Next shot is a somewhat difficult light situation.
                I wouldn't dare to render this kind of 'claire-obscure' with an unbiased engine as it would take days to clean up noise even on a small render farm.

                It's not the most quality shot but I am surprised how well Vray can catch even the darker parts.
                Render time little more than 1 hour.


                roundrooma.jpg

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                • soloS 離線
                  solo
                  最後由 編輯

                  Dang!!

                  Thats brilliant, so crisp and clean.

                  The lighting and displacements are mind blowing.

                  I am tempted to try a clean and crisp render as soon as you do a dirty decayed one....deal?

                  http://www.solos-art.com

                  If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                  • K 離線
                    kwistenbiebel
                    最後由 編輯

                    @solo said:

                    Dang!!
                    I am tempted to try a clean and crisp render as soon as you do a dirty decayed one....deal?

                    He he 😄 DEAL.
                    It's just I don't have 'dirty' texture bitmaps I can use.
                    Do you have a good link where to find such decay textures?

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                    • soloS 離線
                      solo
                      最後由 編輯

                      http://www.mayang.com/textures/

                      Try multiplying two or more textures in PS for even better results.

                      http://www.solos-art.com

                      If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                      • K 離線
                        kwistenbiebel
                        最後由 編輯

                        Nice collection thanks.

                        Here another 'claire obscure' (bit noisy)...It's really fun to test all sorts of light conditions and Andos design is really suited for this:


                        claireobscure2.jpg

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                        • boofredlayB 離線
                          boofredlay
                          最後由 編輯

                          Stunning images. Cheers.

                          http://www.coroflot.com/boofredlay

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                          • N 離線
                            nomeradona
                            最後由 編輯

                            hhehehe. solo the dirty guy, biebel "mr. clean" now trying to switch positions. that must be very interesting.

                            visit my blog: http://www.nomeradona.blogspot.com

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                            • FrederikF 離線
                              Frederik
                              最後由 編輯

                              These are really beautiful renders, Kwistenbiebel!! 8O 😄
                              Very crisp and clean, and I'm impressed by the light tests you've made... Stunning!!

                              Looks like you've got a long way using Vray...!! 😉

                              Is this Vray for SU or another Vray engine..??

                              Cheers
                              Kim Frederik

                              Cheers
                              Kim Frederik

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                              • K 離線
                                kwistenbiebel
                                最後由 編輯

                                Thanks guys,
                                😄

                                @Frederick,

                                It's Vray for sketchup. I wouldn't dare to go the 3dsMax route as I find it very complex (even setting a view seems tedious).

                                VfSU is fun to use when you discover which buttons to touch and which you have to leave alone. Mostly that second thing is important.
                                I only touch about 5% off all the buttons it has....and to be honest, the other 95 % scare the living sh*t out of me 😄.

                                Some people often say that only unbiased render engines like Maxwell, Indigo and Fry can produce physical correct light...but in my opinion it's very easy to get 'fake' results as well with those engines.

                                More and more I like the benefits of biased rendering (Podium, Vray and Kerkythea) over the unbiased ones. Once you see the joy in rendering with those you don't want to get back to the annoying render times of unbiased.(unless you only do exterior views)

                                As for Kerkythea, I hope development on their biased engine (improved color bleeding ?) continues as to me it has more potential than perfecting the unbiased engine cause the market is getting crowded in that department and it will take several years before hardware technology (for the masses) will make the render times (interiors) feasable.

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                                • N 離線
                                  not registered yet
                                  最後由 編輯

                                  Great renders Kris, as always. 😄
                                  How many rendering engines do you have for SU. And are the prices justified. Do you see that much difference between them?

                                  [stuckon3d]

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                                  • AnssiA 離線
                                    Anssi
                                    最後由 編輯

                                    Great renders! The only question mark for me is the gloss on the concrete surfaces.

                                    Anssi

                                    securi adversus homines, securi adversus deos rem difficillimam adsecuti sunt, ut illis ne voto quidem opus esset

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                                    • K 離線
                                      kwistenbiebel
                                      最後由 編輯

                                      Yes, the gloss is a bit exagerated and the bump map could be improved as well.
                                      The original concrete panels are coated so they do have a glossy appearance seen from a tangential angle.

                                      The thing I enjoy the most about making these renderings is learning how the light get's distributed and I agree that texturing in general can probably be improved to obtain more photorealism.....But sometimes the 80% effort one has to invest to make 20% improvement...well you know 😄.

                                      Thanks for the remarks.

                                      Cheers,
                                      Kwisteniebel

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                                      • FrederikF 離線
                                        Frederik
                                        最後由 編輯

                                        @kwistenbiebel said:

                                        VfSU is fun to use when you discover which buttons to touch and which you have to leave alone. Mostly that second thing is important.
                                        I only touch about 5% off all the buttons it has....and to be honest, the other 95 % scare the living sh*t out of me 😄.

                                        Obviously I'm still stuck with finding the right buttons to touch and which to leave alone... 😳
                                        I bought the VfSU back when it was released, but found it too "buggy"... Perhaps I should spend more time on it...!? 😉

                                        Cheers for the "heads up"...!
                                        Kim Frederik

                                        Cheers
                                        Kim Frederik

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                                        • L 離線
                                          lrsuser
                                          最後由 編輯

                                          Those are more amazing renders Biebel!!
                                          You inspire me to put in some non-billable hours and check out VfSU!!...😄
                                          Currently I am using Indigo and would want to compare render times.
                                          Vray quality and Indigo quality seem quite compareable to me (in able hands both can help create magic - so it seems to me!) But I am not too happy with indigo render times!
                                          Is this Ando project downloadable somewhere?! It would nice if I can compare same (simple) model on both plugins.

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                                          • soloS 離線
                                            solo
                                            最後由 編輯

                                            Good Idea Irsuser, I would like to test it with Vue inf and Modo.

                                            http://www.solos-art.com

                                            If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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