Living-Dining area(SU-Vue6)

[not registered yet]

Hi Guys,
Attached are 2 render done for a friend's home
tot I share with u guys
day shot render time-1hr 45min
night shot 3hr 47min

Any C&C are most welcome
Hv a nice weekend

Best Rgds
Tom Yong

[boofredlay]

Wow, nice work. Great job.

[tinanne]

Both are nicely done. Although the day scene is lacking something? Lighting and something with the windows? and I think the reflections should be toned down quite a bit so they are not so distracting...

[not registered yet]

Thanks Guys for the comment,
I'm still under testing mode, So
lots of figuring out to do

Thanks again

Rgds
Tom Yong

[dylan]

Nice work.

I think the day image should be a lot brighter than this. With those windows abd their brightness, I would expect the room to be far brighter allowing a lot more light in.

[not registered yet]

Hi Dylan,
I totally agree with you on the brightness.
but after nearly 2 hrs of rendering and its
only for a jug of beer I will just take it as a lesson learnt instead of re-rendering the shot
Client(friend paying with a jug of beer) cannot
complaint at all or else

Rgds
Tom Yong

[Jackson]

Tom Yong (or should I just call you Tom?),

Great results from Vue- I just (finally) took the plunge and bought Vue6i, but I see you're getting similar aliasing as I am. I can't understand this problem, especially as it didn't occur in Vue5 or 4.

The really annoying thing is that (as my attachment shows) the aliasing is MORE than one pixel wide! I don't see how this is possible in a rendering program. Even if you render 2x the desired size and then resize it in Photoshop, the aliasing is still horrible. Had the same thing occured to you when you switched from Vue5 to Vue6?

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[not registered yet]

Thanks Jackson,
U can call me Tom, I am very new to Vue(2 months old),
Like U I am annoy by the said problem and are
still trying to find a solution, maybe U
can share the solution when U find one

Rgds
Tom Yong

[Jackson]

Tom,

You're getting great results from Vue after just a couple of months. I bought Vue d'Esprit 4 three years ago- I liked the interface and it's intuitiveness. I hated it's bugginess (read: total unstability) and inability to render daylit interiors realistically. I upgraded to Vue5i in the hope that it would be more stable and have the bugs ironed out. It was definitely more stable, but many of the same bugs featured (such as crashing if you tried to save an atmosphere which didn't have a sun in it!). For this reason I've put off buying Vue 6i until now. I really regret that now- I've only been using it for a few days, but it seems to be more stable and less buggy, has loads of extra features, has got rid of some stupid ones, but most importantly is WAY faster and produces better results, especially for interior daylit shots. Those two improvements are WELL worth the money. The new volumetric clouds add a subtle level of realism that really brings life to images, although at the expense of render times.

In my attachments you can see the difference between Vue5i and Vue6i (you'll have to view them full size). Vue5i did have aliasing issues, most noticably in the attached image. It seems to be the result of the contrast between the bright yellow and the fact that it is the edge of geometry. I tried every render and anti-aliasing setting there is, but nothing would get rid of it in this render. Fortunately, as the aliasing in Vue5i was only ever one pixel high (and it was a very fast Global Ambience render) I could easily render 2x size and then post-process it and resize it in Photoshop.

What is really weird is that the aliasing in Vue6i is more than one pixel high/wide! Which means that the final render pass (down to one pixel) is deliberately ignoring some geometry. It's very strange and seriously comprimises the quality of renders which is such a shame for an otherwise MUCH improved program.

Sorry to hijack your thread, but hopefully Shaun Tennant and Fletch (regular advanced SU/Vue users) will chip in.

Best regards

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[not registered yet]

Thanks Jackson for the info, yea really hope
some season SU-Vue user will chip in some valuable
experince & findings

Rgds
Tom Yong

[Jackson]

Tom,

I had to laugh yesterday night when messing around with Vue6i settings to try to get rid of this aliasing. I'm so used to encountering inexplicable artefacts and results and finding workarounds in Vue 4 and 5 that it took me a few days to realise the obvious. I always use "User Settings" when I'm rendering in Vue as Ultra is very slow and usually increases settings that don't actually have any effect on the quality of the final render. Last night I figured what the heck, I'll try rendering on Ultra- BINGO! Very little aliasing! It turns out that it's simply because the anti-aliasing settings I normally used for Vue5 are way too low for Vue6. I realised an oddity in Vue5i a while back- I'd always assumed that Vue applied anti-aliasing as post-processing to the actual render (as you can see it stream slowly down the render), but the AA settings also affect the actual render process itself.

To cut a long story short, you have to crank the AA settings right up (80%+) and aliasing is MUCH reduced- see attachments. I wouldn't bother using the Ultra setting overall though as it is too slow- just use your own user settings, but with more AA. Of course render times suffer greatly, but as Vue6i is faster anyway it's worth it.

Hope this helps,

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[not registered yet]

Gee,Thanks Jackson , that sure help a bunch.
Will try that once I got the time
You hv a good weekend

Rgds
Tom Yong

[Fletch]

Well, Jackson, I've never attempted an interior in Vue (well, almost never) - so you're the boss when it comes to those!
I would say you still need to increase your AA even more... IMHO...
did you try the 'optimized' button?

Plus, a scene with reflections of spatial edges, and reflections of reflections of spatial edges would be a good challenge for Vue's AA capabilities.

btw - Tom, very good images, for Vue interiors - I'm impressed, but wouldn't attempt it myself. I only use Vue if I need animated water, sky, and vegetation... otherwise for still it's KT all the way. I can get interiors or exteriors finished and ready for the client (after my Su model is done) in as little as 30mins. I Wouldn't attempt an interior from Vue in that time frame. But Jackson could probably do it!