I had a visitor yesterday
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Certain aspects of this reminds of some "deathmatch" levels I've played (in the distant past) in Quake 3. This would be a suitable model for a deathmatch methinks.
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The truth is I see little boys of this sort shuffling in and out of my home all the time. There is a huge culture of geeky kids out there who are computed whizzes from a young age. I remember that my son still had a baby bottle hangin out of his mouth while he was tapping away on the computer. My brother's 7 year old is searching the "net" all the time and is a whiz with computers.
My son has been taking programming lessons since he was 9 and is adept at C++, Java, Visual Basic, Direct X etc etc. This fall he will be taking a course in Open GL ( through "Real Programming for Kids" max 4 kids to a class"). He played with SketchUp briefly but it isn't his really interest. The game programming is. And he has scores of friends who are much like him.The downside of this is that he is this pallid kid that never gets outside, never does any sports ( I had him in boxing lessons for 2 years but he lost interest. I may have him interested in fencing, keep your fingers crossed for me) and his idea of a social event is having a bunch of guys over hooked up to the various TVs and computers around the house and gaming en masse.
It should be no surprise that these kids are great at computers. For them, it is mother's milk, father confessor and lover all rolled in to one.
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We tend to be a bit of a geeky household....
2 of my boys {now 13 & 15} have been on SU for a couple of years. Building guitars, guns trebuchet (sp) you name it whatever they can think up.
A few months ago they were developing some kind of contraption with the PS2 and extra hard drives, don't ask me. Anyway, the parts were all over the place. My mom sees this silvery box thing on the counter and asks "what is that" my 5yr old daughter is walking by just then and looks at her and says "it's a hard drive". Needless to say Grandma and Grandpa are sure she will be US prez or graduate from the top of her class at MIT. LOL
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amazing. great spatial sense. at 20 he will be working for pixar...
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Well done Paul, 'Mol an oige agus tiocfaidh siad'
(Gaelic for 'Praise the young and they will come on'On the subject of a Junior SCF Forum, this is something
that we should look at and possibly develop. From
my experience young people much prefer their own
company and just have adults close by and available
for odds and ends.I'll post a new topic on this so we can kick the idea
around AND if any of you have kids that have an interest
in 3D / Graphics please tell them that their thoughts
are more than welcome as if a Youth SUC Forum is set
up it should be designed to suit their needs.Mike
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Hi paul thanx for making me look so clever!
Oli Very Happyposter-tobeyo
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Welcome Oli...
so how can we help you in your sketchup Journey?
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Everybody, this is Oli, he's the lad I was telling you about and the one responsible for the model above.
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Welcome then and thank Goodness we/you are not in the US so this "COPPA" thing does not rule...
We badly need some fresh ideas as we are (mostly) old f***rts here...
Very HappyBut remember; at your age none of us was older than you!
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Welcome Oli. Glad to see your contribution here.
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Yet again emasculated by a 12 year old
, sigh.Welcome to the forums though
.poster-Towner
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I'm not very impressed. In sketchup everyting look's good very easy, and don't misunderstand that the current generation has grown up with computer's and now how to use these programm's very well.
This is what i think a 12 year old boy should be able to do with skecthup at that age.If you start at age 10 with skecthup and you know the basics, there is not much difference a boy of 12 can produce with sketchup and a man of 30 can produce with it. Especially if it is just drawn from a model.It is just playing wiith blocks but then on the computer, when i was 7 i made these things with blocks or lego. Well he made this with his computer.
Nothing special. An by the way it is very messy, there is no real context.Gforce
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@unknownuser said:
I'm not very impressed. In sketchup everyting look's good very easy, and don't misunderstand that the current generation has grown up with computer's and now how to use these programm's very well.
This is what i think a 12 year old boy should be able to do with skecthup at that age.If you start at age 10 with skecthup and you know the basics, there is not much difference a boy of 12 can produce with sketchup and a man of 30 can produce with it. Especially if it is just drawn from a model.It is just playing with blocks but then on the computer, when i was 7 i made these things with blocks or lego. Well he made this with his computer.
Nothing special. An by the way it is very messy, there is no real context.I would have to disagree that a typical 12 year old should be capable of producing this standard of model. The lad firstly, made a good effort at visually surveying the building and then translate this information to SketchUp. Most young lads I know of this age would not be sufficiently interested in the subject to go even this far.
I feel young people really should not be measured with the same 'yard-stick' as adults when it comes to SketchUp output. The important thing is that they are making an effort to learn how to model and this is to be applauded, would you not think so?
I think its about time we developed a Young People's Forum that would allow them to get involved with their peers and develop their skills with the help and encouragement of us more mature SketchUp users.
Mike
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I would just like to say to GFORCE (Who ever he is) that I have a huge lego set and have been building models with it since I was 4. I only had been using sketchup for about 3 months when i did the drawing! OK I may have known how to use a computer since i was 2 and all I could do was draw shapes but sketchup is an advanced program and takes lots of skill. I didn't use measurments and because of a version difference the roof is missing and the walls have gone funny! so give me break!
poster-tobeyo
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When I was about 26 and first time I went to visit my girlfriends family about 500 kms from where I live, she had two 16-year-old, twin brothers who had lots of lego sets.
Now I started to play with those legos and was playing during about my entire stay there (days) and the "mother" asked my girlfriend if she "picked up a crazy guy again..."I still like playing with them and I don't really see any real difference between the two things (except you can save your SU model and don't need to re-use the blocks again
)Cheers!
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Oli,
Good on ya for replying.GForce,
In a previous post:
http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/viewtopic.php?f=125&t=5772
You said:@unknownuser said:
I recently made this human research centre in Google sketchup.
It is the maximum i can het out of the program so far, after using it for 1 year or something.But now:
@unknownuser said:
I'm not very impressed. In sketchup everyting look's good very easy
and:
@unknownuser said:
This is what i think a 12 year old boy should be able to do with skecthup at that age
Gai,
I too still 'play' with Lego, In fact my last purchase was only about a month ago ( A remote controlled Catapillar bulldozer if you must know). There is usually 1 of 2 reasons I'll get a kit:
One - It gives me something to distract me when I'm in one of my cluster headache .....err clusters.
Two - I've been bounced from project to project without anything being finished to the point that I need to build something, anything AND FINISH IT just to get a sense of achievement.Anyway, why the hell should I stop having fun just because I'm 'Too old to play with toys'
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Being at about the same age I thing we can agree that we should decide to deny anything that seems to try to deprive us from our favourite toys!
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Ah Gai, I see your married too
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I hope Oli Tobey realizes that SketchUp is about having fun. I'm pretty sure he does as his model suggests he did have fun modelling the space. Modelling a space not from drawings or dimensions is a cool exercise that many of us who've been using SketchUp for years should probably try.
Oli don't let what others say discourage you from having fun with SketchUp. Put a positive spin on what Gforce wrote. I think what Gforce was sort of saying is there's no reason why a kid like you can't be as good at SketchUp as anybody else in the world. In that he'd be right. If you stick with it and develop your skills, by challenging yourself, you really could be one of the best. It isn't about your age -- the same goes for anyone. At this point you certainly are doing things with SketchUp that not many kids your age can do. You can be proud of that but know that if you stick with it, you can be doing things with it that almost nobody else, regardless of age, can do. Old farts like me use SketchUp every day but there's no reason why a kid like you can't be better. Look at the Gallery here and be inspired. Try the tutorials & tips and learn new things. Ask questions when you have them. But most of all have fun! I've met the guys who invented SketchUp. I know there's nothing more in the whole world they'd like than to know you and kids like you are having fun with SketchUp.
Regards, Ross
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Thanx guys and paul you are just one big kid arn't u!
poster-tobeyo
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